Talk:Luther Forest Technology Campus

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refinements needed[edit]

The topic seems notable enough to me, but I think some adjustment of language would help make this article more suitable for the encyclopedia. For example, second sentence now reads "The site is environmentally friendly and pre-approved with convenient dedicated Interstate highway access only 1.5 miles away." That reads like a promotional brochure, and begs several questions (environmentally to whom? relative to what alternative? pre-approved for what?) Convenient and dedicated highway access? If the source of this sentence is in fact a promotional website, the website can be given as an external link in the article, but should not be overly relied upon for subjective judgments. It could possibly be relevant to state that selling points for the site include access to a highway 1.5 miles way, if there is a source that can be footnoted (a promotional brochure or website could be a valid source for factual matters like that). doncram (talk) 23:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with everything above. I stumbled upon this article that appears to have been recently made when just out of curiousity to see if there was an article already established on Luther Forest. I encourage the creators of the article to join the Capital District wikiproject. Ill add history of the site being a US military rocket testing site and then (and still today) the site of alternative energy research by the state of NY when I have time, I've stretched myself thin as it is on taking on too many articles at one time.Camelbinky (talk) 23:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick check of the sources confirm that much of the article is copy/paste job from promotional sites. This is a copy vio problem along with a POV issue.Camelbinky (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, rats, yes I see that now. It seems to have been created by someone not knowledgeable about wikipedia process (and probably not interested in joining wp:capdis]]!). The first paragraph is cut and pasted from here. The Luther Forest stuff is cut and pasted from here. Those are links within the sources already given; it is not as if the author is trying to hide something. But, we can't use that material here.

Hmm, offhand, i would sort of rather just have the article deleted, rather than fix it up. And notability of one office/technology complex is not clear, though I am not familiar with standards for such. I'd rather work to create an article on historic Luther Forest, which could perhaps mention this office park (or not). Hmm. Could tag with copyvio... doncram (talk) 23:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on deletion, I personally could spend time cleaning it up and adding the historical significance of the past uses of the campus, but in the end I just dont see it being notable enough RIGHT NOW. Big things have been promised for the campus, and even if those things come true I still dont know if its encyclopedic enough. What IS the criteria? It has been mentioned in newspapers in this area and in other parts of the country (Austin, Tx I know off-hand) and trade magazines such as Small Times, but is that enough? I've never seen any other tech or office campus or incubators have their own article, from this area or anywhere else in the world. The RPI tech park I would say is more notable and it lacks an article. If someone could find out what the criteria is maybe we'd have a better idea.Camelbinky (talk) 06:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete?[edit]

It's been over 2 months now, nothing beyond Doncram's original tags has been posted on this article, I'm surprised an outsider hasnt asked for it to be deleted... but I've noticed crappy articles squeek by as long as they are long enough while good but short articles get slapped after less than a week with a deletion request. Anyways, I've reopened the discussion on the Capdis talk page. If Doncram wants to work on a historic page of the area prior to the current office park I'd be willing to give sources and work on it too, but be aware that Luther Forest is an anachronism, it really didnt exist in the past as a name for the whole area. The area was a missle testing site by the US government and not some pristine tree preserve area as described in the article, the reason the land around there was untouched was because the US army declared a "no-build" circular zone around their base, and a pristine forest is what grows up when humans arent allowed with a couple mile radius. It's still notable I'm sure, it was one of the very earliest missle testing sites, and I will have to see how early but I'm pretty sure it predates the ones out west that were later used for nuclear tests, such as White Sands.Camelbinky (talk) 00:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malta Test Site would be the correct name, and lending to notability would be that it was used by General Electric as its testing site for the US Army's Project Hermes during WWII, which was the very beginning of US (and GE's) foray into modern missile technology.Camelbinky (talk) 01:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if I'm doing this right but, for the record, this article was helpful to me. My father mentioned the campus to me and found this entry. Please don't delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.246.173.34 (talk) 18:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some history[edit]

I added some material on the history of the site including "Luther Forest", the Matlla Test Site, and NYSERDA, to bring the article up to the beginning to the Tech Campus itself. I'm hoping to add additional info. I removed the hatnotes, since I added several references. The article still needs cleanup. Peter Flass (talk) 01:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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