Talk:Locust Grove (Poughkeepsie, New York)

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Requested move 19 October 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Locust Grove (Poughkeepsie, New York). (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Locust Grove (Samuel F. B. Morse House) → ? – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Davis.claire87 (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Wondering if it is possible to remove (Samuel F.B. Morse House) from the title page, as this sub-heading doesn't reflect the focus / interpretation of this historic house museum. The house was a summer home for Samuel Morse for less than 30 years; the visitors' center contains a small exhibit on Samuel Morse, but the house, gardens, and outbuildings preserve the collections of the Young Family, full-time residents of this house from the 1890's until 1975. Many thanks in advance for any help / discussion![1] Davis.claire87 (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. This could be moved to Locust Grove (Poughkeepsie, New York), which already redirects here and is anyway the more usual way to disambiguate historic houses where houses with the same name exist in more than one location. Station1 (talk) 06:55, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Locust Grove (Poughkeepsie, New York). Usual disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep. Normally, I tend to use distinct names for houses with the residents they were intentionally built for. It seems to work with other gilded age period houses, especially in places like the Gold Coast of Long Island (Vanderbilts, Pratts, etcetera). I always thought such naming conventions for houses were an acceptable practice. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @DanTD 1:Yes, many historic house museums nearby (in the Hudson Valley) also follow this model Vanderbilt Mansion Historic Site; this is a somewhat unusual / different situation in that the well-known person who remodeled the house between 1850-1852 left behind no records or objects related to his residency. (See references for recent pictures of interior rooms, preserved in their ~1920's state). Additionally, the later resident (Annette Young ~1897-1975) who founded the museum stipulated in her will that her family's collection objects could not be bought or sold, so the museum is unable to add Morse-era furnishings to the interior of the house, even if they could be acquired. (I don't think there is a publicly available reference for this, but I will check and add if I can find). Also in references, a link to reviews that may help explain why it would be useful to move this page--some visitors have expressed that they expected to see a greater on focus on Samuel Morse at this site [2] [3] Davis.claire87 (talk) 15:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.lgny.org/historic-mansion
  2. ^ https://www.thehudsonvalley.com/locust-grove.html
  3. ^ https://www.yelp.com/biz/locust-grove-poughkeepsie
  • Support Locust Grove (Poughkeepsie, New York). kennethaw88 • talk 03:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also noting (partly a response to DanTD) that Samuel F. B. Morse House would also be perfectly acceptable as a title. However, it is a poor disambiguator, which is the main issue with the current title. kennethaw88 • talk 03:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Unsure how to make the move (or if consensus has been reached that the move is okay.) Have taken a look at various helpful pages but am new to editing--any help would be very much appreciated--TIA! Davis.claire87 (talk) 21:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Participants, and especially proposers, are discouraged from closing these discussions. If it seems like more participation would be helpful in reaching a consensus, discussions are left open for a while. Sooner or later, some disinterested administrator or other editor will come along to close the discussion and move the article if necessary. Station1 (talk) 02:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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