Talk:Lists of state highways in Maryland shorter than one mile

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of state highways in Maryland shorter than one mile's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "calvertHLR":

From Maryland Route 260: Maryland State Highway Administration (2008). "Highway Location Reference: Calvert County" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-05-14.
From Maryland Route 231: Maryland State Highway Administration (2007). "Highway Location Reference: Calvert County" (PDF). Retrieved 2009-08-16.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:45, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in List of state highways in Maryland shorter than one mile[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of state highways in Maryland shorter than one mile's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "1939 map":

From Maryland Route 244: Maryland State Highway Administration (1939). "Map of Maryland" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-01-07.
From Maryland Route 367: Map of Maryland (PDF) (Map) (1939 ed.). Maryland State Roads Commission. Retrieved 2010-04-01.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MD 703[edit]

Just fyi: the Google Map for MD 703 is not correct (not just the map linked by the article--the Google Map in general). It indicates that MD 703 is the same as county-maintained Klej Grange Road, when in fact 703 is only the short spur of the old alignment of MD 366 (approx. southwest-northeast), east of Klej Grange Road, and the even shorter piece (running north-south) from the "junction" of 703 & Klej Grange Road to current 366. Unfortunately, Google Maps won't allow a directional map from the dead end of 703 (old 366 alignment) to Klej Grange Road--it will only show the shorter section connecting 703 & KG Road to 366. See page 58 of Worcester Highway Location Reference. Pilch62 (talk) 22:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting This List[edit]

As of a few minutes ago, this list had a size of 113 kb and contained 116 routes. Naturally, this list is only going to grow (at a rate of close to 1k/route) as routes not profiled up to now are added. The list is already becoming unwieldy to edit and slow to load, so it is time to start discussing how to split this list up into more manageable chunks. A similar process occurred several months ago for the List of Maryland state highways, which was split into five lists of routes within 200-number ranges (2-199, 200-399, etc.), with the original list page revamped into an introductory page. Splitting based on numbers would be the simplest way to divide this list, but I am not sure if it is the best way. So please put forth any ideas you have on how to split up this list in an objective way.

In the meantime, I am going to go through the 2009 HLRs and count how many highways shorter than one mile exist in Maryland. For the purpose of this survey, I am not counting any highways with the same number as a highway greater than or equal to a mile in length. Those short highways are covered in the separate article of the 1.00+ mile highway. This survey will be done by county, with provisions for a number that extends into multiple counties. Each route number will be marked for whether or not it is covered at all and whether or not it has a separate article already. In the latter case, the route should be summarized in the shorter than one mile list and have a link to the main article. V C 05:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I conducted the first part of the survey, which was to determine how large we can expect the whole list to become. The list of highways are in the collapsed table below. There are a total of 233 highways shorter than one mile. At this moment, 116 of them are profiled in this list article, which is a shade less than half. Thus, if we were to continue building this list as we have been, it will have a size of well over 200k by the time we are done. V C 19:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shorter Than One Mile Survey

After each county is a count of how many routes are in the list as of 11/28 out of how many total. Routes in more than one county are included in both lists. However, the route is counted toward the total of only the first county alphabetically. Routes not counted are surrounded by _underscores_. Routes included in shorter than one mile list as of 11/28. Routes with a main article are followed by an asterisk.

Survey Total: 116 of 233

Allegany County (9 of 11): 636, 658*, 830, 831*, 939, 942, 948*, 949, 951, 952, 956*

Notes: 831 also has a section in Carroll County. 948 also has sections in Garrett County.

Anne Arundel County (7 of 29): 169*, 172, 181, 393, 553, 642, 645, 652, 672, 711, 723, 732, 762, 779, 783, 784, 785, 788, 796, 797, 798, 909, 915, 917, 931, 969, 990, 995, 997

Notes: 172 is also in Baltimore City. 732 is also in Howard County.

Baltimore County (2 of 5): 746, 795, 889, 943, 993

Notes: 795 is also in Dorchester County.

Calvert County (1 of 6): 509*, 524, 752, 761, 764, 768

Caroline County (8 of 8): 308, 324, 485, 617, 776, 817, 820, 821

Carroll County (1 of 6): 668, _831*_, 833, 849, 853, 879, 904

Notes: 904 also has sections in Frederick County.

Cecil County (5 of 7): 268*, 284*, 327*, 537*, 591*, 727, 896*

Charles County None

Dorchester County (2 of 2): 750, _795_, 819

Frederick County (0 of 6): 814, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, _904_

Garrett County (7 of 8): 219, 733, 742, 825, 826*, 827, 828, 946, _948*_

Harford County (2 of 3): 490, 763, 922

Howard County (1 of 6): 432, _732_, 932, 981, 984, 985, 986

Kent (6 of 6): 449, 674, 701, 855, 856, 864

Montgomery County (3 of 9): 384*, 660, 787*, 899, 911, 927, 928, 929, 998

Notes: MD 927 redirects to the Randolph Road article.

Prince George's County (22 of 22): 221, 430, 535, 631, 637, 694, 717, 726, 810*, 950, 963, 964, 965, 967, 968, 972, 973, 974, 976, 977, 978, 979

Queen Anne's County (4 of 5): 656, 759, 834, 835*, 837

St. Mary's County (1 of 4): 584, 863, 868, 945

Somerset County (6 of 6): 460*, 640, 673, 822, 918, 920*

Talbot County (3 of 3): 334, 518, 954

Washington County (12 of 12): 735, 741, 804, 805, 843, 844, 846, 847, 878, 894, 903, 910

Wicomico County (5 of 5): 731, 813, 815, 991, 992

Worcester County (7 of 7): 250, 368, 375, 377, 568, 703, 921, _992_

Baltimore City (2 of 3): 172, 126, 686

I would say the best way to split the list would be by number. If it were to be done by county, we would have awkward situations such as counties with only a few routes (hence short lists) and the disorganization of short routes that cross county lines. Dough 48 72 03:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I looked over my work to count the number of highways per group of hundred and I discovered only 177 routes. I must have made a math error somewhere in my original survey. In my second go-through, I counted 52 routes in the 900s (900-999), 43 routes in the 800s, 32 routes in the 700s, 17 routes in the 600s, and 33 routes below 600. The simplest thing to do would be to have separate pages for the 900s and 800s. Either the 700s can be combined with the 600s or the 700s can stand on their own. The numbers less than 600 would stand on their own or be combined with the 600s, depending on what occurs with the 700s. I agree that doing it by county has its perils. Grouping multiple counties might reduce that but introduces its own problems of subjectivity. So splitting by number seems to be the best course of action. V C 04:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lets get started on the list reorganization. The following steps need to be taken:

Write a better introductory paragraph at the top of the article. This paragraph will be identical on all four pages except for the sentence where it mentions something like "this is a list of highways between 800 and 899 shorter than one mile."
- Done. I created the paragraph in my userspace and will apply it to the split pages once I create them. V C 10:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Create the set of new pages. There will be four new pages with the title List of state highways in Maryland shorter than one mile (xxx-yyy).
- Done. I created pages for 2-699, 700-799, 800-899, and 900-999. I also added links to those pages in the Roads in Maryland template. V C 13:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Copy all route entries from the present list to the four new lists.
- Done. I will leave the present list up until all redirects have been changed. V C 13:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Update all redirects to the proper list for every route that is redirected to the list. Highways that have a dedicated article will not have a redirect to change.
- Updated all redirects for the 900-999 routes. V C 15:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Updated all redirects for routes <899. V C 00:18, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Update Template: Roads in Maryland to reflect the new lists.
- I added links to the new lists a few weeks ago but forgot to note that here. I will remove the link to the huge list once I complete all redirects. V C 15:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed link to the huge list. V C 02:15, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Either (a) send the old list to articles for deletion or (b) redirect the page to the list lowest in route number.
- I chose option B. I wiped the old list and placed a redirect to the 2-699 list. This project is now complete. V C 02:15, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Once a step is complete, please update this list to indicate the step was completed; a simple "done" is fine. V C 23:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to splitting the list, this would also be a good time to add any missing routes. Dough 48 72 16:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]