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I think that Benjamin Disraeli should be added to the list of english romantics, as his novels; espesialy Sybil, are clearly in this tradition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.175.217 (talk) 00:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Romantics have to represent Romanticism. Some names don't belong here.[edit]

Before editing this article, I wanted to get any feedback on this:

"Julie, or the New Heloise" 1761, does not, by itself, make Rousseau a Romantic. Rousseau co-founded rationalism (the Enlightenment) to which Romanticism was a reaction *Against* so it makes no difference that he had later doubts about what he and Voltaire had created, because if someone goes from this list to read Rousseau, they will not find Romanticism. It's deliberately misleading.

I'd almost let Mary Shelley slide, because though she later became a rationalist, she's only really known for Frankenstein which is, in its paradoxical way, romantic.

Similarly the idea that Giuseppe Mazzini was a romantic is absurd. He was a hardcore radical rationalist and is often referenced as the creator of what became National Socialism. There is nothing Romantic (valuing wisdom, beauty and preservation over industry, progress and social change) about anything that Mazzini writes. Unlike placing Rousseau here, which is just intellectual dishonesty, this is a boldfaced lie. Mazzini is doggedly dogmatic in his support for industry, progress and social change to the extreme of advocating the total destruction of perennial wisdom, beauty and any attempt to preserve existing society.

If anyone has any doubt about anything I just said, consult the related wikipedia pages.

^[1] The opening of this article makes one reference to his late romantic novel, and seven references to his political stance as a rationalist/enlightenment ideologue, (even 2 as an extremist.)

^[2] The article outright details her direct opposition to romanticism.

^[3] Nothing I say can add to the clarity of this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamtrove (talk • contribs) 14:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Rousseau

[2] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Shelley

[3] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Mazzini

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