Talk:List of obelisks in Rome

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Why?[edit]

It is a nice article, and informative... on what, and where, and when, and to a degree, who.

Which leaves why.

Why did they do it? Worth a line or two. Midgley 17:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Romans liked bringing home stuff from their conquests. One visited Egypt though "Those are cool! Rome needs some of them!" and gte a ship to bring it to rome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.127.189 (talk) 14:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

There are some nice images in the german article de:Obelisken in Rom. It would be nice to get them into Commons - how do we do that? -- ALoan (Talk) 14:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Aurelian"[edit]

Several of these obelisks are designated as "Aurelian copies", with links going to the Emperor Aurelian. Is this correct, or does "Aurelian" in this case mean the family of Marcus Aurelius, who reigned a century earlier? --Jfruh 15:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pero Tafur and the Vatican Obelisk[edit]

I have a reference that quotes the Castilian traveler Pero Tafur (around 1440) talking about, besides Saint Peter of Rome, a "high tower made of stone, sort of a three-sided diamond on three brass pedestals (carnicoles)" (my translation). Many would pass between the ground and the base of the "tower" and Tafur considered it the tomb of Julius Caesar. The 1874 edition quotes Gaetano Moroni's Dizionario di erudizione storico-ecclesiastica saying that the Vatican obelisk rested on four cubes of bronze, two free and two joined with pernos. So how was the Vatican obelisk before the pope set to re-erect it? --Error 02:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found more on Saint Peter's Square. --Error 02:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Design of this page[edit]

I don't think the current design with a lot of empty space in all columns except the last one has sufficient advantages over the non-design plain text of de:Obelisken in Rom. At least the number of columns should be reduced to no more than three. For a start I moved the pictures (Images) under the names, and there is still plenty of room for location and height and probably the pharao, too. --Vsop.de (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please vote:

6 columns

5 columns

4 columns

3 columns

2 columns

plain text --Vsop.de (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vatican Obelisk[edit]

The Obelisk now in St. Peter's Square was not originally raised in Alexandria. It was raised in Heliopolis, Egypt in about 1300 or 1500 BC. I read about it years ago and don't remember now which Pharaoh it was or the exact year but this information is available to anyone who has time to look it up. The article should also say something about why it is important to the Vatican; namely that Saint Peter was crucified near it and it is considered to be a "witness" to his martyrdom. The concept of the "Witness Stone" is common. I am surprised that there is no Wikipedia article about it. Alexselkirk1704 (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Smallest one?[edit]

Minerveo and Matteiano are both described as smallest obelisks in Rome, despite their different size. --mfb (talk) 08:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If not ALL made in Egypt, adapt lead[edit]

The lead reads: Roman obelisks were brought down the Nile. That means: all, with no exception. Please clarify: were any obelisks made IN ROME/ITALY? If that is a fact, as suggested by half a sentence in the article, then pls. amend the lead. I'm sure that's a fact long known to researchers, as the type of rock used would easily show where they're from. Thanks. Arminden (talk) 05:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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