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Australian fire stations[edit]

I've consulted with editors at wp:AWNB and have jotted notes on accessing historic register databases at wp:HSITESHELP. It seems to me that this list-article should include any Australian fire stations that have Wikipedia articles, plus include redlinks for any that are deemed "state-level" significance by any state or territory. So I'm removing some redlinks of lesser historic status to here.

New South Wales[edit]

Removed from draft article, one item from the Register of the National Estate, found in search of Australia Heritage Register, with selection for this type:

From searchable register here, can click on "State Heritage Register" to limit results. There are no historic fire stations of state-level significance apparently. Local significance ones include:

References

--Doncram (talk) 16:53, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Territory[edit]

No fire stations found using NT historic register search interface. In fact no hits at all on "fire", although there are police stations and other items found by searching on "station". --Doncram (talk) 18:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

South Australia[edit]

Candidates found by searching here. Keeping in the list-article these ones which have state-level significance:

Historic at local level (selected ones, not all), keeping in list-article
Historic at local level (selected ones), removing from list-article

References

--Doncram (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria[edit]

For Victoria, I think staying in are:

Historic ones of national significance
Historic ones of Victoria state-level significance

and also staying in will be a few historic ones of all other levels of significance

but not being included are:

References

  1. ^ http://www.environment.gov.au/cgi-bin/ahdb/search.pl?mode=place_detail;search=place_name%3DFire%3Bkeyword_PD%3Don%3Bkeyword_SS%3Don%3Bkeyword_PH%3Don%3Blatitude_1dir%3DS%3Blongitude_1dir%3DE%3Blongitude_2dir%3DE%3Blatitude_2dir%3DS%3Bin_region%3Dpart;place_id=4242]
  2. ^ "Belltower, Maryborough Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  3. ^ "Ballarat East Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  4. ^ "Former Ballarat Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  5. ^ "Former Elsternwick Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  6. ^ "Former Prahran Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  7. ^ "Former Bendigo Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  8. ^ "Eastern Hill Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  9. ^ "Former Carlton Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  10. ^ "Former No. 3 Carlton Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  11. ^ "Former Hawthorn Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  12. ^ "Former Hawthorn Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  13. ^ "Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  14. ^ "Brunswick Fire Station and Flats". Victoria Heritage Council.
  15. ^ "Fire". Victoria Heritage Council.
  16. ^ "Former Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  17. ^ "Former Richmond Fire Station (Former)". Victoria Heritage Council.
  18. ^ "Richmond Metropolitan Fire Station (Former)". Victoria Heritage Council.
  19. ^ "Former St. Arnaud Fire Station & Turncocks residence, 12 Napier Street, ST ARNAUD". Victoria Heritage Council. (See also [10] on related standpipe)
  20. ^ "Fire Station (Former) Turncock's Residence". Victoria Heritage Council.
  21. ^ "Restaurant (Former Fire Station)". Victoria Heritage Council.
  22. ^ "Former Kew Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  23. ^ "Moonee Ponds Fire Station (Former)". Victoria Heritage Council.
  24. ^ "Fire". Victoria Heritage Council.
  25. ^ "Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  26. ^ "Coleraine Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  27. ^ "Fire". Victoria Heritage Council.
  28. ^ "Former Ringwood Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  29. ^ "Newtown Fire Station (former)". Victoria Heritage Council.
  30. ^ "Former Fire Station & Flats". Victoria Heritage Council.
  31. ^ "Bunyip Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  32. ^ "Stawell Fire Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  33. ^ "Ivanhoe Metropolitan Fire Brigade Station". Victoria Heritage Council.
  34. ^ "Rosanna Metropolitan Fire Brigade Station". Victoria Heritage Council.

--Doncram (talk) 17:56, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tasmania[edit]

No coverage of Tasmania fire stations being kept in now. Tasmania ones found in searching its registrations document are:

but there is no indication of state-level signficance, and in Google searching on Hobart and Rokeby ones I didn't immediately find useful sources.

--Doncram (talk) 18:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Western Australia[edit]

For WA, being kept are four already having articles:

and all 16 Western Australia state-level significant ones (which includes 3 of those, all but Old Perth one) found in search on "fire" with state-level significance checked:

  1. Albany Fire Station, Albany Fire Station & Fire Officer's House, 71 Collie St, Albany
  2. Bassendean Fire Station / Bassendean Fire Station (fmr), 10 - 14 Parker St, Bassendean
  3. Beverley Fire Station, 146 Vincent St, Beverley
  4. Claremont Fire Station, 441 Stirling Hwy, Claremont
  5. Coolgardie Fire Station, Sylvester St, Coolgardie
  6. Fremantle Fire Station (fmr No 2), 18 Phillimore St, Fremantle
  7. Fremantle Fire Station, 20 Phillimore St, Fremantle
  8. Guildford Fire Station & Quarters, 2 Meadow St, Guildford
  9. North Kalgoorlie Fire Station (Lamington Fire Station), 1 Hare St, Kalgoorlie
  10. Kellerberrin Fire Station, 4 Ripper St, Kellerberrin
  11. Merredin Fire Station / Merredin Fire Station Complex, 28 Bates St, Merredin
  12. North Perth Fire Station / North Perth Fire Station (fmr), 21 View St, North Perth
  13. Northam Fire Station No 2 & Quarters (fmr) (Northam's Avon Descent Assoc. Headquarters), 87 Duke St, Northam
  14. No. 1 Fire Station, Central Fire Station (Perth), Perth City Fire Station, Western Australian Fire Brigade Museum / No 1 Fire Station (fmr) (Central Fire Station; Perth City Fire Station, Western Australian Fire Brigade Museum), 25 Murray St, Perth
  15. Toodyay Fire Station, 105 Stirling Tce, Toodyay
  16. York Fire Station, Old York Fire Station, Old York Fire Station (Community Centre, Council Chambers (fmr)), 151 Avon Tce, York

It appears the Old Perth Fire Station is different than the North Perth Fire Station based on addresses and photos. Since the Old Perth one's article asserts it was the first purpose-built fire station in WA, I wonder why it does not appear to be listed on the WA register.

References

--Doncram (talk) 18:09, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I myself am no longer interested/able to develop articles in a timely fashion about several of these, so I am withdrawing the redlink items from the mainspace page, in this edit just now. What the mainspace page showed before that edit was:
Those include some which I suspected were relatively more important because there were multiple historic register listings under different name variants. I would be fine if anyone else wanted to develop articles about any of these and restore their items to this list-article. --Doncram (talk) 17:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fork U.S. list?[edit]

The U.S. list is quite long. How do editors feel about forking to List of fire stations in the United States? ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:35, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The page is currently 46,429 bytes long and I think it is not going to get much longer anytime soon, as I complete out redlinks and tidy up a bit. If/when editors want to devote effort into table-izing the sections and putting in photos and coordinates and so on, it could become too long and need to be split. But for now it is well within the old guideline of 100K size, and it seems interesting to juxtapose all the different countries' items in one page. So I'd prefer not to split it now. --Doncram (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

count of articles November 2018[edit]

1	Australia 24
 1.1	New South Wales 1
 1.2	Queensland 9 
 1.3	South Australia 5
 1.4	Victoria 14
 1.5	Western Australia 6
2	Canada 9
3	China 1
4	Denmark 4
5	Estonia 1
6	France 1
7	Hong Kong 4
8	New Zealand 1
9	Philippines 1
10	Russia 1
11	Singapore 1
12	Taiwan 1
13	United Kingdom 13 (with one of those, the Kent item, being a list itself)
15	Vatican City 1    
total non-U.S. 63
14	United States
14.1	Alabama 13 (cumu. 13)
14.2	Alaska 0
14.3	Arizona 1 (cumu. 14)
14.4	Arkansas 5
14.5	California 20
14.6	Colorado 7
14.7	Connecticut 11 (57)
14.8	Delaware 5
14.9	Florida 7
14.10	Georgia 8
14.11	Hawaii 7
14.12	Idaho 1
14.13	Illinois 5 (92)
14.14	Indiana 15
14.15	Iowa 19 (126)
14.16	Kansas 4
14.17	Kentucky 4
14.18	Louisiana 19
14.19	Maine 10 (163)
14.20	Maryland 6
14.21	Massachusetts 47 (216)
14.22	Michigan 15
14.23	Minnesota 14 
14.24	Mississippi 2
14.25	Missouri 4
14.26	Montana 6 (257)
14.27	Nebraska 3
14.28	Nevada 1
14.29	New Jersey 16
14.30	New Hampshire 1
14.31	New Mexico 5
14.32	New York 36 (319)
14.33	North Carolina 5
14.34	North Dakota 2
14.35	Ohio 18
14.36	Oklahoma 1 (345)
14.37	Oregon 8
14.38	Pennsylvania 11
14.39	Rhode Island 1
14.40	South Carolina 2 (367)
14.41	South Dakota 5
14.42	Tennessee 6
14.43	Texas 10
14.44	Utah 3
14.45	Vermont 2
14.46	Virginia 5 (398)
14.47	Washington 19
14.48	West Virginia 1
14.49	Wisconsin 12
14.50	Wyoming 1
14.51	Washington, D.C. 19
14.52	Puerto Rico 5 (455)
total U.S. 455
total overall 518

Page intent[edit]

I'm confused by the intent of this page. It's currently titled "List of fire stations" but the very first sentence of the article is "This is a list of notable current and former fire stations..." It seems that either "notable" should be dropped or the article title should be updated to "List of notable fire stations." I navigated here with the expectation of a larger list and now unsure if I should add non-notable fire stations to the list. Cheers. --Krypter7 (talk) 21:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I meant for the list to include just notable ones. In naming of this and many (most? nearly all?) list-articles, the word "notable" is implied but not stated. And, yes, the lede of the article does clarify that this is meant to include just the Wikipedia-notable ones. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 21:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation of Engine House No. 5 etc. and Fire Station No. 5 etc.[edit]

Just recording notes. Yesterday I noticed User:Ɱ had created a number of nice articles for fire stations in Columbus, Ohio, mostly named "Engine House No. X (Columbus, Ohio)" now. Which got me stirred up to create redirects from "Engine House No. X" where possible to "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, and to make the latter more clearly appear as combination dabs covering variations. I once apparently thought it good to develop "Engine House No. X" disambiguation pages and keep them separate from corresponding "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation pages, but have now merged all of those.

Note that "List of fire stations" includes in its "see also" section a series of disambiguation pages: Fire Station No. 1, Fire Station No. 2, etc., which I have meant to be comprehensive in terms of including any numbered fire stations whether called hose stations, engine houses, or other. These disambiguation pages exist up to X=25 and then there are a few more with higher numbers (and I think all are listed at end of List of fire stations). There also exist a few higher numbered "Engine House No. X" items, not listed there, which currently are {{R with possibilities}} to "Engine House No. X (City, State)" articles, for which there is not yet a "Fire Station No. X" disambiguation page to redirect to.

I also revised Engine House (disambiguation) somewhat; I am not sure if it should include "Engine House No. X" or other "engine house" items that are fire stations or not. Maybe it should just cover engine houses; there is List of engine houses also as a section of "engine house" article. Per my own writing at Engine House (disambiguation), that "An engine house is a building that holds engines, often stationary engines providing power, and sometimes is a fire station holding fire engines." However almost all entries there (with Cleveland Mine Engine House Number 3 being one exception) are fire stations / firehouses. I believe all the entries there (and on any "Engine House No. X" dab page) that are named "Engine House No. X" are in fact fire stations / firehouses.

Comments, perhaps especially about Engine House (disambiguation), would be welcomed. Almost all of its entries now are "partial matches" which aren't usually included in a disambiguation page, except sometimes as "See also" items. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 18:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]