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The initial archiving of the accompanying talk page was inappropriately and prematurely done. You may expect an archive on this page soon.
--Jerzy•t 19:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Creation & US-centricity

This page was created in response to the existence of Pejorative terms for Germans. The encyclopedic value of both may be questionable. M123 06:04, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

  • how is that for an argument. "Someone criticize me so I go hit someone else head". How mature !—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 August 2003
    • Because it is american centred.
      And to show my displeasure about unrespect.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 05:34, 10 October 2003
  • Not liking content is not a valid reason to remove it. --InanimateCarbonRod 17:03, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
You are confused. My displeasure is not about this paragraph. It is about the existence of the article. Especially its existence alone. It is about NPOV as a global term on wikipedia. Such as the multiplication of anti-french article, with a comparative non existence of some other countries, or just poor coverage even of the US.
Besides, I fear it will always stay that way, because this project is in english. So that make sense that american people list all the offending english terms they give french people, but that does not make sense that french people create a similar list with french terms to qualify americans.
Last, precisely, why this paragraph ? Just because it is a perfect exemple of an american-centrist article, where it is mentionned when an offending term is used in the another country than US (here GB), but where just mentionning who is using a term when it is in American is not *even* worth mentionning. In short, this article is plain biaised, because it tries to make believe the whole world is using that term, when in reality it is only some americans. I guess americans can not even see why it is worth mentionning this.
I would like all the french and the german articles to be merged in a more general article, which title could be something like Offensive terms per nationality or anything better but meaning this. It is a bit easy to talk of commnunity decision, when the highest majority of people is not concerned by such articles. There are only two articles, one on french, one on german. Curiously, only two people against, the french and the german. All the others claiming there is no issue at all. Of course :-) But do anything similar with any other social group well represented on Wikipedia, such as homosexual, you will assist to an uproar and severe campaign for deletion. Well, I am not offered this. The french and the german are left with these two articles, and we find them offensive as such. I would like that other people opinions are taken into consideration, not just thrown away because they are minorities. So, I suggest that these two articles are merged into a general one; so that at list the offending title disappear.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 17:35, 10 October 2003
I think that merging the offensive french and offensive german pages might be a good idea as it may at least add balance when other nationalities are added. I don't understand why you keep removing the second paragraph. If the term is used mainly in the US, simply add that fact, don't remove the whole paragraph on that basis. It seems that you are emotionally involved in this page, however I hope this situation won't cloud rational judgements on content. InanimateCarbonRod 17:48, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
No, I am little emotionally involved in the topic, so I fear little problem. However, I saw these articles be quietly forgotten just because the majority does not care about them. I just do what I think may trigger an answer from anyone, while my opinion and the german one did not interest anyone of vfd. I would be glad of a merging, but am not sure what the best title would be.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 18:07, 10 October 2003

"Offensive terms per nationality"?

I am not sure Offensive terms per nationality is a proper title. I would like someone to comment on this one, or to suggest something. To avoid renaming all these pages 3 or 4 times with different titles. Basically no one seems interested in answering me; so I will keep reverting till someone has a suggestion to offer.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 04:45, 11 October 2003

  • Fine. I am sure this title is not english proper. But since nobody suggested a better one, this is it.--—Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthere (talk • contribs) 05:00, 11 October 2003
  • You (plural) have now succeeded in hiding the content of those former separate pages so that the uninitiated are unlikely ever to find it, as it seems that double redirects do not work. Also, the euphemistic term "informal" crops up again. It is not "informal" to call Germans the names mentioned here, it is offensive. Why you seem unwilling to call a spade a spade I do not know, but it is the words themselves which are offensive, not the existence of an article or several articles about them. --KF 08:37, 19 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    It may seem more "consistent", but I don't believe getting something wrong just for the sake of uniformity is a good idea. (See my comment above.) I did not change the other subheadings because I don't know enough about the terms listed there. Also, is it "consistent" to have "offensive" in the title then? --KF 08:07 & :08, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Okay, so it's "offensive" now throughout the article. That's much better I think. --KF 08:28, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hmmm...My feeling is that most terms are not necessarily offensive. For example I call myself a kraut without feeling offended. The title is probably not very precise, especially the use of the word offensive. Anyway, it does not make too much difference to mee either way. --Chris_73 11:58, 31 Oct 2003 (Japan Time)

Improvement

I am very happy I renamed and merge the initial articles offensive terms for french and for german. I think this page is much more satisfying :-) Anthère —Preceding undated comment added 20:31, 12 November 2003 .

Offensive vs pejorative

I am very confused by two things about the current page. 1) How can a term be "offensive" and not be "pejorative"? Are you being redundant here? 2) I can't convince myself that all of these terms are offensive. One example - "Yank" is a term that I associate with US soldiers in WW II. What few connotations is has are mildly good, not bad. I've been called a Yank and considered it nothing more than an aknowledgement of my accent. If someone's intending that as an insult - well, they missed the mark.
Unfortunately, the only way I see to fix this article is to make it into more of an etymological study. That means a lot more detail. Who thinks the term is offensive? In what context? Where did it come from and how has the meaning changed? What exactly are the negative connotations? Is it a universally acknowledged "offensive" term or is that a minority opinion? Without that level of detail I don't see much value to this article.
--Rossami 04:13, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Rename?

I think this page badly needs to be re-named.
Not all slang names for nationalities are offensive. "Tommy" for a British soldier is almost affectionate: "Here come the brave Tommys!"
Tommy derives from "Thomas Atkins", a name once used in the example form in a British soldier's pay-book.--Anjouli 18:25, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)


see [1] DJ Clayworth 19:29, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

There are also some notable omissions in the article, such as WOP. (A group of Italians arrived at Ellis Island without papers, their files were marked Wo.P. and the name stuck.) --Anjouli 18:25, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

There are some other notable omissions. Goy or goyim to refers to non-Jewish males and shickza to refers to non-Jewish females, neither are said with good intentions. Schvartze is a Yiddish derogatory term for a black person. I think people forget the whole horizontal hostility thing. Essentially, if you are oppressed, it doesn't stop you from wanting to oppress. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.163.60.15 (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Typical names

It seems like, thinking about alot of ethnic/nationalistic slurs that I recall hearing here in the U.S. growing up, alot of them seem to be examples of "names" that sound like they're from the ethnicity/nation at issue. I wonder if that's true of other cultures (I hope!) -- it seem's rather playgroundish in any case.
On a side note, I've alway's envied the cockney rhyming slang -- although it was years before I figured out why a "bhlbhlbhlbhlb"-type sound was called a rasberry.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.126.20 (talk) 02:09, 26 February 2004

Pom

I always thought that the story that "Pom" derived from "Prisoner of Mother England" (I've also heard "Prisoner of His/Her Majesty", "POHM") was an urban legend, but this page presents it as fact. Is there any evidence that it is in fact true? Proteus 14:06, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

  • Alternative_words_for_British says it is folk etymology. Secretlondon 19:21, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • "Pom" is considered quite offensive by modern British people. Australians calling the British poms use the term affectionately in the main, although it can be used offensively such as "bloody pom!".
    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.174.223 (talk) 14:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Inselaffe

"Inselaffe" als Begriff der Deutschen für die Briten? Hab ich in meinem ganzen Leben noch nie gehört :-D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.54.245.125 (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2004

I think someone just made that one up. I asked a few native German friends on a reflector, and they have never heard this word used in Germany either. They just call us 'Englander' or 'Englisch' - ignoring the Anglo/Scot/Welsh difference. In old times we addressed each other as 'Tommy' and 'Fritz', but that was way back when... ChrisRed UK 01Sept06. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.84.253.241 (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2006
No one made Inselaffe up! Many germans use it as a slur for Britons as well as germans use to call anyone in the UK Engländer! Inselaffe is well known but many would not tell a person from the UK. I don't understand why all the german term have been removed and get removed if they are added again! It seems as if the english Wikipedia is highly anti german! --212.144.131.89 (talk) 09:54, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  • The contrib in German reads roughly
    "Island ape" as a term [used by] the Germans for Britons? I've never yet, in my entire life, heard [it].
--Jerzy•t 06:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Slavs re Germans

I'd assume, that in all slavic languages the words for "German" and "mute person" are related or equal. --Pjacobi 20:08, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)


Jewish related

Yid

Does anyone have a source that "yid" is a backformation of "Yiddish" (the source given, Etymology Online, does not mention this), i. e. that the term "yid" comes from the word "Yiddish"? The word "yid" simply means "Jew" in the Yiddish language, so I don't really buy the "backformation" bit. - Ernie (nope, I don't have a log-in) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.66.89 (talk) 17:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Jew

This section is a "Dab" for its two subordinate sections, each initially entitled "Jew".
Jew (I) has existed since 2005 Jan 25, and all refs to [[Talk:List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity#Jew]] that originated before Apr 2 of that year must refer to it.
Jew (II) has existed since 2005 Apr 2, and subsequently created refs to [[Talk:List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity#Jew]] might refer to it.
--Jerzy•t 20:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Jew (I)

Could someone please explain how "Jew" is an offensive term for Jews? —Ashley Y 06:58, 2005 Jan 25 (UTC)

  • I can't, but I've met several people (all non-Jewish) who found it offensive. They prefer "Jewish person."
    --Jpbrenna 04:32, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Forget that. Could someone please explain how "Jew" is a nationality?

17;19, Sep 19 2005 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.54.215 (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2005

Editor guilt
(The following contribution was initially part of one in the section "Jew", which has become the subsection "Jew (I)".)

Do any other contributors ever feel guilty about knowing so many of these terms already? I think that "beaner" was my second contribution to this list, and I kind of felt weird about it. I want people to know that just because I may know of a word and add it to this list, I do not employ the term myself!
--Jpbrenna 04:32, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jew (II)

While I don't find the list, per se, offensive, I am perplexed that Jews have been classified as a NATIONALITY, perhaps indicative of a UNIVERSAL anti-Semitism, as evidenced by the numbers of perjorative terms - FORTY - listed. Also, can a reader intuit that by the count, Italians and people of the USA (NOT all Americans, North, Central and South)with 36 and 34, respectively, are 2nd and 3rd on the "hit parade?" Personally, the phrase "(S)He's a JEW" always seemed a bit harsher than "(S)He's Jewish." Maybe I'm just a bit paranoid. By NOT categorizing Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists, etc., as separate entites further reinforces my paranoia, especially with ever-escalating Anti-Semitism in all corners of the world, not to mention Islamic extremists vowing to kill all infidels regardless of Nationality.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wholetooth (talk • contribs) 14:08, 27 August 2006

You have a point about Jewish not being a nationality, though bearing in mind the general tone of the page there's very little point getting upset about who has the most offensive names associated with them. Should terms for Jews be removed from this list, perhaps relocated if they are thought worthy of preservation? Alternatively the article could be renamed 'Offensive terms by ethnicity', which would include Jews.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by TinaSparkle (talk • contribs) 11:01, 30 August 2006
Jews are more nationality-like than Catholics, Muslims, etc. because in Judaism there's no proselitizing and if you decide you want to become a Jew, you have to go through a long and difficult process. As a consequence intermarriage has been rare (you couldn't convert the bride to fit your religion). The result is that most Jews are born into families that have been Jewish for as long as anyone can remember.
In the past, if a Christian king conquered new territory, the people living on that territory would become Christians too, and so the worldwide pool of Christians became ethnically and geographically diverse. A similar thing happened in Islam. Not in Judaism. (I don't know enough about Buddhism to comment on that.)
Of course there are regional differences, but as a whole 'the Jews' are a more uniform entity than 'the Christians' or 'the Muslims'. There are diseases and genes that are linked to Jewishness, I've never heard of 'Christian genes' (but perhaps they exist, I just haven't heard of them). Summarizing: 'Jews' is not a nationality as much as 'Italians', 'Germans' etc. are, but there is more to say for classifying Jews as a nationality than there is for other religions.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shilgia (talk • contribs) 05:24, 11 October 2006 By my error, the immediately preceding contrib was previously falsely attributed since 20:20, 5 June 2009 via {{Unsigned2}} with the sig & stamp that should have been on the contrib that preceded it. --Jerzy•t 08:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Zhid

Zhid (жид) - Russian term, [...] not pejorative

I don't speak Russian, so I don't know about this, but this page suggests that it is offensive term and has been for some time. Can it be offensive without being pejorative ? bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:27, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is highly offensive to Jews in Russia and Ulraine. However, in the past it didn't have offensive meaning and still used in some names for example Zhidovski vorota(Жидовские ворота) in Kiev means Zhid's Gates or Jewish Gates. There is also an idiom in Russian Vechniy Zhid[Вечный Жид] (Wandering Jew). The usage of it doesn't contain any offencive meaning.
Also, zhid is a synonym for a greedy, close fisted man, not always Jewish. Zhiditsya(жидеться)-- refuse to give something.
How I know zhid is common name for Jews in Poland and Chech Republick and doesn't have any offensive meaning in it.
--Glushak 10:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Scabby Jew

Ive added this term to the jewish section as it is used by the irish to say someone is does not share things or is unwilling to. Most people use it with out knoledge of offense and the word scabby is more often followed by bastard but jew is said a lot, in the kindest possible sense, i think, people are more offended by the scabby part.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aphfaneire (talk • contribs) 22:51, 23 August 2006

"Shyster"

I removed this word. It is not an ethnic slur: the OED says it is of obscure origin but conjectures that it is from the old sense of 'shy' to mean "disreputable." It has no particular history of use for Jews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasala (talk • contribs) 18:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

  • It's hard to doubt the OED. Still, to coin a phrase, the OED grinds etymologies down to fine points, and it grinds exceeding[ly] slow, as The Professor and the Madman will tell you.
    I was suspicious of the claim, bcz i always assumed shyster was the Yiddish form of German Sheisser, a "shitter". And bcz what better way to imply "chiseling Jew lawyer" than use a typically Jewish term for "chiseling lawyer"?
    (I also had the feeling of just such an ethnic slur being turned around, in hearing the ethnic slur (used in threateningly addressing a small-town New England lawyer, in State and Main) "You speed-trap shaygetz!"
    So i did some research, and found via dictionary.com that three respected dicts do make it a modification of Scheisser, from German, some suggesting it is an Americanism; i began fearing OED could be weak on rude language &/or American English. In fact, the American Heritage Dictionary has an extravagantly annotated entry that mentions Gerald L. Cohen, whom we cite elsewhere (in the 1999 Lillo citation). A search for his name coupled with the term led me to "A Man of Many Words, David Shulman Dies at 91" in the NY Times, saying
Mr. Cohen said that Mr. Shulman was first to challenge that "shyster" derived from a lawyer named Scheuster. Others, particularly Roger Mohovich, then traced the etymology to 1843-1844. "Shyster" turned out to be a Yiddish corruption of a German vulgarism meaning a crooked lawyer.
Re-energized, i turned up first Accidentally, on Purpose by Ken Dornstein and then a Worldwide Words article by Michael Quinion, whose WP bio implicitly raises the possibility that he might be engaged in preparing an update on the subject for the OED.
--Jerzy•t 00:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I also think the logic of the removal is erroneous, and i'll offer a counterexample up front: if
    i call you a macaca (or for that matter, a tartuffle!) and
    you're unfamiliar with the term, and
    there's an ethnic difference, and
    my ethnic group is known for including a fair number of individuals with an inclination to insult yours,
then you still know (or should know) -- that lk is for the sake of the May 1, May 7, and one of the May 12 entries, in the lieu of an article we probably should have, perhaps entitled duty to know -- that i probably intended an ethnic insult to you. Depending on various factors, you may grant the benefit of the doubt, and as with cases of unquestionable insult, you may choose to let the offense be, for a wide range of reasons. But while etymology can influence which words come to be used to convey insult (and is often persuasive evidence of intent, as it was with "macaca"), whether it was an insult is a matter of intent, not of etymology.
What i'm presenting here is my OR, but it points the way to verifiability of the correctness of a "shyster" entry on this page. I'm not at the point of looking carefully enuf at the context to decide whether to just put it back (since the removal was based on a single source and the ignoring of obviously worthwhile ones that turn out to be contrary, and an otherwise unsupported argument whose premise doesn't logically support the conclusion claimed), or put it back singled out for a {{fact}} tag, or whatever. Hopefully others will carry it further.
I'm pretty sure the Dornstein ref (e.g., the apparently once widely known Scheuster myth), and perhaps also parts of the Quinion one, suggest an ethnic slur, and expect that with work a good solid ref where an expert draws that conclusion can be turned up.
--Jerzy•t 00:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

re removal of self-hating jew

(this is copied from a post on jayjg's talk page)

seems like you're everywhere i am! care to join me on the list of ethnic slurs page and we can discuss there? ethnic slurs, according to wiki are "used as insinuations or allegations about members of a given ethnicity or to refer to them in a derogatory (critical or disrespectful), pejorative (disapproving or contemptuous), or insulting manner . . . used to insult on the basis of race, ethnicity, or nationality." the term self-hating jew seems to meet all of these qualifications - the def. implies only one is necessary. thanks so much for your patience, i'm new here and not trying to step on toes, although it seems i have already. Untwirl (talk) 00:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Gweilo

White Ghost or White Devil. Description of White People by the Chinese.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.72.116 (talk) 06:27, 16 July 2006

  • No, only by the Cantonese. 84.174.140.32 — Preceding undated comment added 16:50, 11 September 2006

Gaijin

Just similar to the Chinese description, but this time by Japanese.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.72.116 (talk) 06:27, 16 July 2006

  • This is just wrong, it is nothing like the Chinese term, according to Wikipedia itself Gaijin means `foreigner´ - and it is certainly unclear how much of a offensive term it really is. I for one believe unless explicitly used in the the negative context described in the article it is not offensive and simply a common misconception.--AndersH 09:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Think about Japanese culture for a minute. There's nothing more offensive you could possibly call someone than foreigner, and thus the connotation. 74.12.147.21 22:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
As you noted, the difference lies with the speaker's intention or purpose of using the term. That, however, is what caused the confusion. When a speaker's intention is questioned, the speaker tends to deny it was their intention to insult, but the context often suggests otherwise.
The crux of many debates are these questions: Is 'foreigner' a simple acknowledgement that the person isn't ethnically Japanese (or a Japanese citizen)? Is it a subtle refusal to accept the non-Japanese person as a Japanese resident/citizen, i.e. is it an xenophobic reaction? Is it acceptable to describe a Japanese-born non-Japanese person as 'foreigner'? Is it an attempt to 'Otherize' a non-Japanese person?
Naturally, after many debates last forty years, a blanket agreement couldn't be achieved. As the result, the majority in Japan currently considers it socially unacceptable as it carries too much baggage. It's generally accepted that gaikokujin is the preferred term. Gaikokujin | 外国人 | foreign-country person (but can be translated, informally, as 'non-Japanese person' or 'foreigner'). 0zero9nine (talk) 03:34, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Brazilians

First, im glad there are no such words for brazilians (I guess theyre that friendly). Also, I was taught that the reason for calling foreigners in general, and americans in particular, gringo is different. It goes back to the 40s, when there were a number om american military bases in Brazil (mainly in NE) as supporting bases for the troops to cross the Atlantic in WWII.The unsatisfied population organized marches and riots, with signs that read "ALL GREEN, GO HOME" (referring to the green uniforms used by the american military). Thus, the term Gringo was born.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by LtDoc (talk • contribs) 23:49, 13 July 2005

That's a common misconception, it's descended from Latin griego which means litteraly meens Greek, but was applied to all foreigners.Cameron Nedland 18:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Any sources on that? Otherwise, its only an opinion.~~LtDoc~~
    —Preceding unsigned comment added by LtDoc (talk • contribs) 23:36, 5 January 2007
    • It was hard to discern whether your unindented contrib was doubting griego or green go, but this new formatting reflects the fact that the anonymous mere opinion for green go was actually your own!
      Never fear, you have colleagues who are up to such challenges: 1st Google hit on
      Gringo dictionary
    is for a page sourced by the American Heritage Dictionary. It knocks your theory into a cocked green gringo field cap by offering an 1849 report by John Woodhouse Audubon, and also motivates the connection between Greeks and Norteamericanos by mentioning the Spanish sense of gringo as "foreign, foreign language, gibberish", and noting that "It's Greek to me" is also a Spanish expression.
    --Jerzy•t 08:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
First off, I came in here looking to expand the definition of gringo, but only found this discussion, so I'll add to it. The term "gringo" was not only coined in Brazil, it was used (and still is used) by all Latin countries in North and South America. The first place was not Brazil, though. It was probably one of the first occupied ones: Mexico, Puerto Rico or Cuba. Most likely, Mexico. And earlier than WWII. But you have the correct origin of it. It comes from protestors shouting for the Americans, who wore green uniforms, to leave. Therefore "Green Go Home" would be shortened to "Green Go".--El Cool (talk) 04:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Australians

51st Stater

This doesn't look like a very widely used term, but from what I read from several Google sites it is normally used to criticize persons of ones own country who slavishly imitate US customs or politics. If it is applied to Canadians more than others, it is because they are geographically closer. But it doesn't make sense for people in the US to criticize others for being too much like them. Shoaler 21:02, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

ABC

This entry is linked to a disambiguation page (ABC) and I'd like to see it linked to an article, but without the meaning of the term, I can't update the link. Could someone provide some additional text for this entry? Thanks. Courtland 02:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

  • I unlinked the ABC as there was no term on the disamb page related to this usage. I found one reference that indicated it was playground slang. Not enough info to make an article/not notable enough to add to disamb page. —ERcheck @ 01:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

ABC means American Born Chinese. it is common among those in such circles, but i wouldn't say it's used as a "slur" much since outsiders rarely know the term.

still, it CAN be. 67.150.86.242 (talk) 23:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Pepsi

This section is a "Dab" for its two subordinate sections, each initially entitled "Pepsi".
Pepsi (I) has existed since 2005 Sep 28, and all refs to [[Talk:List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity#Pepsi]] that originated before Apr 2 of that year must refer to it.
Pepsi (II) has existed since 2005 October 27, and subsequently created refs to [[Talk:List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity#Pepsi]] might refer to it.
--Jerzy•t 07:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Pepsi (I)

In what way is Pepsi not an offensive term for French Canadians? It is not just a random piece of trivia about Pepsi outselling Coke in Quebec; the specific word "Pepsi" is quite specifically used as a derogatory label for the Quebec people, in senses such as "He's is a Pepsi", "Those Pepsis...", "get out of my face, you f*cking Pepsi", etc. How, accordingly, I have already, earlier on this page, pointed out a Wikipedia article which quite specifically details an incident in which a television journalist quite specifically got into hot water for quite specifically calling a specific person "a Pepsi". Review Gord Martineau and explain to me again how does an offensive label for people not doesn't belong on a list of offensive labels for people? . Bearcat 04:14, :17, & 23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

  • I grew up in Ottawa. I have spent the last 10 years in B.C.. I have never heard this term referred to anybody, derogatory or not. Then again, I haven't heard half of those terms used above. --maclean25 06:04, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm with Bearcat. It's legit. -The Tom 13:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Frank magazine made several "Pepsi" jokes about Quebecers throughout the 1990s. It's legit, and well-documented. CJCurrie 17:54, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, definitely legit. — mendel ☎ 15:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Not legit. I am a Quebecer and have travelled Canada far and wide, during the time of both referendums, and although I heard a lot of Quebec trashing I never heard that term. The real question is if the terms fits in the greater purpose of Wikipedia, which is to inform and not say that because a handful of people used a word it is embedded in popular culture. A pool conducted in both French and English Canada would probably demonstrate that very few people even know that meaning of `Pepsi`—Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.167.215.7 (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2007

Pepsi (II)

Bearcat, this site is not asking about the financial position of a company. What your talking about is merely a stereotype that is fallaciously undergirded by perceptions, especially within Quebecers. For many Canadians, like myself, I have not even heard of this term applied to Quebecers.

On the site Pepsi-Cola, here is what the term Pepsi alludes to:

"The term is now used as a historical reference to French-English linguistic animosity."

The key in that paragraph is linguistic, not national. If it was national, then it would be felicitious to apply the word Pepsi as a derogatory term for Quebecers.

As well, it would do well to remind ourselves that this site is created for offensive terms per nationality. Although Pepsi may be used as derogatory, the tastes for that drink in Quebec may fluctuate; in short, it is indelible. The terms enumerated on this site pertain to offensive terms indelibly affixed to particular nationalities.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadia (talk • contribs) 01:17, 27 October 2005

Will you please attempt to understand what we're saying? This is not just a stereotype in the sense of "Them Those Quebecois drink a lot of Pepsi, eh?"; the word "Pepsi" is itself directly used as a term NOUN for the people themselves, as in "Those Pepsis really oughta speak English like normal people, eh?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearcat (talk • contribs) 03:51, :52 & :53, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Bottom line: what you guys are failing to understand is that the word is used as an offensive and dismissive noun for a group of people. In what way does that not meet the purposes of this list? Bearcat 03:51, 9 November 2005 (UTC) — Preceding undated comment added 03:59 (2 edits), 9 November 2005

My family are Acadians. I grew up in Western Canada, but I have heard the term Pepsi to specifically refer to French Canadians and to Acadians many times in my life. And it's used to refer to groups of people and not in reference to them actually drinking Pepsi. I have always heard it used pejoratively as others have described: #*$%ing pepsis," or "a bunch of pepsis." I don't think there is any room for argument here. That some people haven't heard it does not change the fact that the term is a clear racial epithet and known to people from various regions of Eastern Canada and especially Acadians (I would say moreso the latter). As noted by Bearcat, this clearly differentiates the term from a simple stereotype. In fact, I was an adult before realizing the term was originally related to the soda being popular in that region. The fact that a given person hasn’t heard an epithet doesn’t mean it’s not a valid inclusion and it's mystifying to see some users argue that everyone who has heard it is wrong. That people from more than one province in this country have heard it certainly supports its validity. And any argument that Acadians are not a discrete ethnicity is challenged by the historical fact that Acadians were specifically targeted for expulsion from Canada, and that many today live in isolated communities with different speech patterns, cuisine, and other cultural affects. Tklow (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Bottom line: What does Pepsi have to do with "offensive terms per nationality?" Since when was Quebecois a nationality? Canada is ONE nationality, not two discrete nationalities. Besides, Pepsi is a term that seems to derogate a specific group of persons within the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.46.241 (talk) 03:19, 14 November 2005
The immediately preceding (03:19, 14 November 2005) edit included the removal of approximately 1500 words of contributions, comprising the sections "What is with User: Canadia's deletion vandalism of ...Canadians?", "Re: Canadian References", and "Re: Canadian References". That edit was the IP user's first; there is no evidence in their contribs over the next month of copying any of it to any other location; the IP #'s next edits were about a dozen to List of Canadians 20 hours later. Details of the later editing strongly suggest the same person initially making reasonable edits on Canadian topics but shifting literally in the space of 70 seconds to committing almost entirely gross vandalism, and eventually self-professed vandalism, ostensibly motivated by political PoV, and resulting in three blocks. --Jerzy•t 07:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
  • The article already differentiates between "offensive terms for English Canadians" and "offensive terms for French Canadians". Your argument might actually have some merit if it didn't, but it does. Bearcat 04:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Kelper

Kelper is very occasionally used in Argentine Spanish as an insult (see Talk:Falkland Islands), but I suspect that the usual usage in English is still the non-derogatory one of "born in the Falkland Islands." Unless someone objects, I will make this change shortly. Matt 11:20 & :27, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Darius

"Labas" is not an offensive term for Lithuanians. It means "hello." See http://www.autoinfa.lt/webdic/ (if you can read Lithuanian, see def. 3 "said as a greeting"). All my life every Lithuanian I've known (including me and my family) have said it to one another, and we have no Russian background.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.23.207 (talk) 14:15, 28 October 2005

Aboriginals

Please do not put offensive terms per nationality to aboriginal peoples in developed countries, such as Australia, Canada, the UK and the US. It is with such ignominy that we have had to live in history under the iron fists of European settlers as slaves. To see these terms asseverated as merely "offensive terms" is both upsetting and very disturbing. Please do not put these terms on this board anymore. They do not warrant any a space here.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.25.129.170 (talk) 06:30, 29 October 2005

Here here! --193.60.81.207 16:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Offensive terms like "Eskimo" for Inuit people have no European origin.Wandalstouring 17:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The origin of "Eskimo" is not necessarily meant as offensive (see the Eskimo article), nor has it been used by the people who lived among them in past decades to be more than a simple identifier. I live in northern Canada, and there is a different word that serves as an ethnic slur, which I won't repeat here. 207.189.230.42 08:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"Americans"

I don't want to revive the long and boring conflict about the usage of "American" to denote "of the U.S.", as there is a multitude of pages on Wikipedia where it has been debated. However, on this article here, it is outright silly (and insulting as well) to list "Americans" along with Peruvians, Chileans, Mexicans etc. So please let's keep it to some neutral wording; I don't insist on "citizens of the U.S." but "Americans" is too charged to stay. Kosebamse 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Clutchplates

I have taken "Clutchplates" out of the South African list. It is not known to a variety of South Africans, and it has been suggested that it is a pejorative slang term used in academic South African schools to refer to vocational schoolgoers. Thus it is not a national offensive term, or and English-vs.-Afrikaans term, but an economic / social class term. Further, it seems not to be well-known, reportedly having appeared in only one novel.

--Nat 11:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Bukkakes

Can somebody please provide sourcing for the term being used anywhere in the world to denote the Japanese? I am guessing that this term came from someone's imagination. We probably all know what vernacular meaning of bukkake (from Bukkakeru - to splash water), but I have never seen nor heard the term used (I know, I am not the world's expert on slang) either in person, in writing nor in audio/video media.
user:jerry.mills—Preceding undated comment added 05:45 & :54, 16 May 2006 .

I placed the original (2009) version of the preceding {{undated}} tag, and got confused between two 05:45 contributions made some months apart by the same colleague. I have replaced the bad one (and noted the 2nd edit to the same contrib by that colleague). My apology to anyone confused over the last few days, and to any future talk-page auditors. --Jerzy•t 06:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Bukkakes Part II

Removed that particular "imaginary offensive term" from the list. I almost removed "rapists" form the list, but I imagine this is a term being used by the Chinese. Still, it needs sourcing.
user:jerry.mills — Preceding undated comment added 17:55, 19 May 2006

Gook

Interesting word. I have heard somewhere that when American Forces arrived in the Korean Peninsula, Korean Nationals would see the Americans and say: "Megook" which means (if I am correct) "American". It did not take long for the GI to hear this and make a derog term from it.

- Korean National: Me gook!!! Me gook!!!

- American GI: Why... yes, you are a gook.

user:jerry.mills — Preceding undated comment added 22:59, 16 May 2006

"1899, U.S. military slang for 'Filipino' during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes 'soft, seductive eyes' was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to 'Nicaraguan,' 'any Pacific Islander' (World War II), 'Korean' (1950s), 'Vietnamese' and 'any Asian' (1960s)."
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.135.161.94 (talk) 21:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Afrikaners

The following contrib is reformatted; the purpose is to set apart the two entries quoted here (by the same editor who then commented on them) from the then current revision of the accompanying glossary (now moved to Talk:List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity#South Africans):

_ _ Boer , referring to Afrikaners, meaning "farmer"; originally in universally accepted usage, the term is now obsolete and used pejoratively.
_ _ Rock Spider, used by English South Africans to refer to Afrikaners, meaning that they are big and hairy - also an Australian prison slang term for a paedophile

Guy’s , you seem to have a few thing wrong here on these items
I suggest you go back to the drawing board , Boer is far from obsolete and Rock Spider has nothing to do with hair
Best regards
Christiaan Oosthuizen ( a Boer and a rock spider)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.35.243 (talk) 16:08, 20 May 2006

Blacks

How come nigger is not on this

How come nigger is not on this. Isn't it offensive.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.192.93.52 (talk) 20:42, 6 June 2006

  • It is - Read closer and look under AMERICAN. That is where the term originated and is used most.
    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.0.220.173 (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2006
    • It's a little late to be asking, but can someone who knows how look back, and see whether that got the "Knee-jerk Amero-centric Assertion of the Week" title? We may have got the first chance to try it out with a vengeance, but Nigger's discussion can as easily be construed as deriving similarly from related non-English sources everywhere the British colonized, and attaining offensive status independently whenever the social tensions around race created the occasion. It certainly deserves listings under the applicable separate countries, and prominence within them according to their own usage, not its American significance.
      --Jerzy•t 10:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there a reason Spearchucker is lacking on this specific list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.248.237 (talk) 18:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Incomplete

I was referred to this list by a friend and after having a good old laugh at the names for Brits and Whites (being a Honky Island Monkey myself) I thought I'd look at the rest and I can't find a 'Black' section? How can you have a 'White' section and not a 'Black' section?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.226.36.169 (talk) 14:24, 29 September 2006

I believe that people are removing that section.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.243.130 (talk) 23:28, 13 October 2006

where da niggas?

How come there are no racial slurs for blacks?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.180.198.182 (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2006

Doin' it man! Firts thing in the mo' `'mikkanarxi 02:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Altenmann (talk • contribs) 02:53, 7 December 2006

How about "Jungle Bunnies"? This is quite common. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.94.80 (talk) 04:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Cracker

I always thought the offensive term "cracker" came from the whites "cracking" their whips at the slaves. Are you sure that it's not that? loulou 03:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I though it was because crackers, such as Saltines, are white.207.189.230.42 08:29 & :30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Cracker (cont.)

Part of my family hails from the Florida panhandle, from Quincy to Jacksonville, and the old timers who grew up at the turn of the century--and have been dead for quite a while now -- were proud of being "Crackers" and said that the term came from the whips that were used to drive cattle across river fords. Hmmm. regarding the "content must be verifiable" here poses a problem. I do have the transcript of a tape recording of an oral history of the family, by a great aunt who died in her 90's, about 20 years ago, in which she mentions that. Unfortunately we all know how unreliable oral histories are. Charles
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.115.95 (talk) 23:40, 28 July 2006

Swedish = bøsser?

It says Swedish are called bøsser (gay) in Denmark. Never heard of that! Medico80 19:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I hear it´s because Swedish tonality makes it seem very feminine (according to Finnish sources). (BTW I´m Norwegian).AndersH 23:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I haven't heard it either, but the Swedish intonation can sound quite funny in Danish ears. By Danish standards, it would be considered feminine. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 09:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Merges

No reason to keep separate articles out there for just some nationalities and not others. If you are going to insult in a NPOV way, you need to insult equally. Both the German and British articles need to be merged here. Neither are referenced either. The American equivalent article was reworked and the slang moved here a long time ago. Also, Pejorative terms for Germans, which Alternative words for Germans is a recreation of was merged here. Lets be fair folks.pschemp | talk 18:37-52, 13 August 2006 (UTC) The preceding contrib is the result of a series of 5 edits too interwoven to usefully explicated by formatting markup of the final version.

I totally agree with the merges. --Splette Talk 09:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Knacker/Nacker?

Another very common Irish one, but does someone know the correct spelling? I have seen it spelt with a 'k' sometimes so im unsure
only ever with a K
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Asbad (talk • contribs) 20:22, 25 August 2006

  • I'm from Sligo, in Ireland, Andand I can tell you it's 100% spelled with a k. A definition of it is given under 'Knacker' in Wikipedia. I have been called a mexicano as a light hearted term for residents of the Republic of Ireland. This could be added to 'Mexican', because i think the use of mexican-like phrasing is funny. 213.200.67.154 17:24 & :31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I agree, Knacker (as it is spelt with a 'K') should be included in the article as it is very commonly used in Ireland. Used to describe poor/Living in a caravan(trailer park)/Involved in Crime. Similar to 'Chav', 'Scally', 'Redneck' etc.
      History: The term is derived from "Knackers Yard" which is an area of a slaughterhouse where unusable parts of animals are dumped, or parts that are unfit for consumption. The word 'knacker' as an insult has been used for nearly 90 years in Ireland (V* Discharge 23:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)) This contributor is the Asbad (talk · contribs) who started the section.

Germans

"Kraut-Eating, War-Mongering, Jew-Gassing Fascist"

Just delete this rubbish...some nerd just made it up. I am British, 50 years old and have never heard of, or seen this phrase in my life until now. The only (mildly) offensive term for Germans still used here is "Krauts", but even this is falling into disuse. Nowadays we just call them 'The Germans", sometimes in a silly accent such as mock-german (i.e."Zee Gerrmanns") or a broad 'Scouse' accent (after Liverpool comedian Stan Boardman). 160.84.253.241 14:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

You don't read The Sun, do you?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.208.244 (talk) 17:51, 1 April 2008

”Kalboj, Hamburger, Hitlerowiec, Gestapowiec, Faszysta, Gebels”

To my best knowledge the above terms are not in use as ethnic slurs in Poland. In just one silly joke Kalboj is used to mean a person whose profession is cleaning water closets, not an American person! ("Kal" -feces- is pronounced similarly to "cow"). It is sometimes used as a nickname by home grown Polish "cowboys". Hamburger is not a derogatory term for an American person, either. It is used to mean a sandwich and nothing more.
Hitlerowiec, Gestapowiec and Faszysta are not slurs used for Germans. These are clearly historical terms. The obvious disinformation is that Gebels is the ethnic slur for a German person. I can only guess that the connotation of the word "Gebels" is dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels. I hope that the authors will correct all insufficiencies ASAP.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by {{subst:User:User1025}} 10:11, 26 October 2006, & modified by {{subst:ipuser|151.112.15.66] 11:47, same date

Pretty soon we're going to delete all unsourced entries. I'll do these now. -Will Beback 19:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Squarehead

This was a very common term for Germans during WWI and is still considerably popular. From what I know, It comes from the helmets worn by the Germans during the war.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.120.91 (talk) 23:14, 15 January 2007

whether its nationality, like where you're from or what your religious beliefs are or color, doesnt matter. this shows slang terms used by most, but not all, people...... git over it.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.151.169.108 (talk) 23:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC).
Squarehead comes from their flattop haircut. See photos of Paul Hindenburg.Lestrade (talk) 01:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)Lestrade

Quisling

Likewise, never heard 'Quisling' used in Britain to mean 'A Norwegian'. I've only heard it used as a synonym for a political 'Traitor', 'Turncoat' or 'Collaborator' in general - regardless of nationality. The Brits don't have an (intentionally) offensive term for the Norwegians. Some (especially in the Royal Navy) nickname the people 'Noggies' and their currency 'Nogs'. ChrisRed 08:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Banabak.

I personally never heard about this word. This article says it's an ethic slur for Armenians. This is what I found in Russian Wiki: Banabak is widely in use in Ukrain and South Russia for Middle Eastern looking people, commonly Caucasians. Here is the link: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Банабак--Glushak 10:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Arabs

I see that the complete removal of the Arab Section was done at 17:08, 26 August 2006. Are Arabs not considered an ethnic group? Is this just vandalism out of ethnic pride? user:Jerry.mills — Preceding undated comment added 05:45, 22 September 2006 u

Fear.Lestrade (talk) 00:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)Lestrade

Arabs Continued

After reading the definition of Ethnic Group in this here wikipedia, Arabs are concidered an ethnic group. The list goes back. I appreciate the middle eastern culture, but it is unfair to remove them from reality. Equality for all. user:Jerry.mills — Preceding undated comment added 06:11, 22 September 2006

  • howcome the term 'Paki' is listed under the Arabs subtitle? a Paki means pakistani, and pakistani's are not arabs, if anything they are indians, but definatly not arabs, fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.61.67.173 (talk) 00:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

This article needs sources for its entries. Unsourced entries may be removed at any time. -Will Beback 20:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Finland Paragraphs

Please shorten these paragraphs.Everytime the word "Finnish" or "Finn" is referenced,theres a huge explanation on why it was given.Obviously written by a Finn.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.110.220 (talk) 22:54, 14 October 2006

Worst page?

This might be the worst page on the entire wikipedia. What purpose does it serve? 124.182.234.173 02:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't serve any purpose. It just shows the stupidity of some people. MetsFan76 19:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
God I hate you both. So much. So brainwashed. So conditioned. You'd fire up ovens with this fanatical, anti-racism hysteria. Ethnic slurs need to be documented because there's so many of them, and most of them aren't used anymore but when reading older literature, articles etc. It's a description of a certain type of person, offensive or not, and it requires a definition. Just because it offends you doesn't change that very simple fact. Stop letting the "equality" doctrine of complete and total hypocrisy cloud your better judgment on such a simple matter. 67.1.57.94 (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I didn't read this: "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." before posting that...oh, wait! Apparently neither did you two! HA! Oh wells...67.1.57.94 (talk) 03:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

WHAT A GREAT ARTICLE

This article is truly encyclopedia-worthy. Oh wait, disregard that, I was lying. I find it hilarious that the NPOV wikipedia has such a long article on this, yet talking about Encyclopedia Dramatica is some kind of taboo. 203.26.16.68 01:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, this article shames Wikipedia. It may have had some slight value at first, but has now almost become a vehicle for hate. If I were Wikipedia I would simply destroy it in one click without comment. ChrisRed 09:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I second that. I have no idea what the purpose of this article is. Is it so kids can read about them and then go to school the next day and use them? I mean hey...its an online encyclopedia. What better place for a kid to learn what to call his asian, black or Hispanic friends!!! This article is a travesty and has no place on here. MetsFan76 01:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree, this is completely disgusting and unworthy of an encyclopedia. There are actually a few other lists along the same line, apparently one was not enough. Be sure to check out Lists of disparaging terms for people, which is a list of all the lists, if you want to make sure you have the right slur for the right occasion. I would propose the whole lot of them for deletion myself, but many of these lists already made it through a few deletion proposals.
--Susan118 (talk) 02:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe I will, anyway. I can start with WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTDICTIONARY. I can't find anything that would specifically prohibit the subject. But I will keep looking.--Susan118 (talk) 03:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
If anyone feels like discussing/responding to my comments, please message me on my page. I really don't need to have my watchlist filled with the updates every time someone contributes to this "article", so I have to remove it from my list.--Susan118 (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

What about "hypersensitive, brainwashed Western hemisphere dwelling whiny little bitch?" Why isn't that on here...oh. I see. Because that's what you all are! lol! 67.1.57.94 (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

START ALL OVER

The article was a pile of garbage. Some order has been done in the List of ethnic slurs. But this one sits unnoticed. I moved it to List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity/old, for possibloe reference, but nothing can be re-used from there, because it was ridiculously 100% unreferenced.
I would suggest to start from copying a reliable indormation from the alphabetical List of ethnic slurs and go from there.
`'mikkanarxi 02:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is a pile of garbage. This bs should be removed from Wikipedia, and protected from recreation. Not useful whatsoever. All it is good for is spawning random name-calling between ethnicities and placing it as valid encyclopaedic content. --Ryouga 22:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
There will be no random name calling, according to wikipedia's policies of no original research, cite your sources and reliable sources. `'mikka 01:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

asians

this article doesn't include desert monkey, dune coon, sand nigger and camel jockey —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.108.122.18 (talk) 22:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

They will not be included until reliable sources will be provided for them. `'mikka 01:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
the movie Three Kings can be used as a source for thatSkhatri2005 01:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The list is not abt use in works of fiction, and use in fiction is not evidence of use outside of fiction.
    --Jerzy•t 06:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Urban dictionary is the only source i can give but type any of them in and there will be several results for each which shows they are used as racial slur.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.109.165 (talk) 23:24, 5 January 2007
Please see about wikipedia's reliable sources. `'mikka 23:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Nationality or ethnicity?

Could someone please explain to me why words like "Bai Gui", "Cracker", "Pale face", and other similar epithets are on this list? I just don't understand why a list of "Offensive terms by nationality" would include these words when they are clearly indicated to be based on race and not nationality.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.253.208.134 (talk) 07:33, 10 January 2007

Please read the introduction of the article. `'mikka 23:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:V

From the verifiability policy: "Editors adding or restoring material that has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, or quotations, must provide a reliable published source, or the material may be removed."

Mikkalai, please stop re-introducing uncited material. Wikipedia is not a source of citation, simply having an article is not enough to be included here. Please find citations for these terms or stop re-adding them. Until(1 == 2) 13:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a source of citation, but it source of wikilinks. Ever heard about such nifty trick? We request citations only in the immediately relevant article, not in every article where some word is used. If you think that the items in question are invalid, please post the corresponding artiles for deletion. `'Miikka 14:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Umm I understand how Wikipedia works just fine thank you. Wikilinks are not a citation, and does not provide verifiability. If there are citations in the other articles then copy them over before re-including them. Another policy I think you should read is WP:3RR, it applies at this point. Until(1 == 2) 15:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikilinks are not citation. Wikilinks point to the places where citations should be found. We do not copy citations with each wikilink. This would be absurd, which wikilinks help to avoid. If we follow your logic, wikipedia will be littered with hundreds of millions of duplicated citation. WP:V is about verifiability, not about citing eac and every word in every article. There are thousands of wikipedia list articles that rely on citations in the listed articles. `'Miikka 15:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Just copy the citations over for gods sake. These needs citations, they don't have any, they have been challenged. A citation that is not in context is not a valid citation. I understand what you think, but it is just not how we do things. We want hundreds of millions of duplicated citations so that the context of the citation can be clearly shown. Linking to an article that contains citations is not helpful because I don't know which citation supports the claim in the article which does not have a copy. We have room, there is nothing absurd about it. Until(1 == 2) 15:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Those thousands of Wikipedia lists that don't have their own citations are problems waiting to be fixed, I started here. I don't appreciate the resistance in the list cleanup I am trying to do. Until(1 == 2) 15:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The real problem is, that I don't know what citations support the facts you want to include. Each article linked to contains many, and it is hard to a reader to confirm the facts stated in this list. That simple. Until(1 == 2) 15:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

When making a WP:3O report, please use a neutral description of the problem and not sign your name per the instructions. I don't think wish to have citations next to claims is a "very strange opinion", it is pretty much a literal reading of the policy. Anything you wish to include is in the history just waiting for a citation to be added, if that citation is already in another article is should be easy to find. Until(1 == 2) 15:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia lists do not require citations. If we start demanding citations in List of Romanian actors that each person in question is indieed a Romanian and and actor, then something is seriously wrong with wikibrains.
Also, if you don't know which citation to copy, it means that you don't know the topic, and in such cases it is recommended to stay away of it, or you will create mess. Ignorance is not a reason to bug other people. If you do something useful in the area of your expertise, it will be much more beneficial for wikipedia. `'Miikka 16:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Well gee, I am reading a policy that says everything needs a citation or it can be removed if challenged. Where does it say "Wikipedia lists do not require citations"? Is that a policy, or an opinion? This has nothing to do with me not being able to find the citation relating to the fact, it is about the reader, remember the reader? To assume that the reader will not be ignorant of the subject they are looking up is contrary. I don't need to know a subject to check its citations, because the citations will teach me what I need to know to confirm the article content, but if I cannot find the citation... Until(1 == 2) 16:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Well gee, if you failed to find a citation for Sambo (ethnic slur), you deleted it means that you didn't execute due diligence (which is a politically correct way to say that you were kinda lazy, colleague). `'Miikka 17:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Sambo is used in Coloured Spade, a Hair song that enumerates many other pejorative terms

for blacks (including elevator operator and shoeshine boy).

But the job is yours, as your seek to include the information. The burden of providing a citation is on the person wishing to include the information, not the person trying to remove it. Once again, please do not resort to Ad hominem attacks against me, in fact refrain from personal attacks about me altogether, as an admin you should know better. I have not called you any names. Until(1 == 2) 17:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Right out of the WP:V polciy, emphasis mine: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article." In the article, your burden. Don't call me lazy for not doing your work. Until(1 == 2) 17:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The citations are provided, only in different places. Deletion of valid information without having good reasons to believe it is false is a disrespect to other fellow wikipedians and disruptive behavior. `'Miikka 17:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What part of "Material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article." don't you get? "in the article". If you want the policy changed go to WT:V, otherwise just follow the policy. Removing uncited material is not disrespectful, even if someone does take it personally, it is an important job that needs doing. Until(1 == 2) 17:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

If a material is challenged by a lazy reader who fails to click the wikilink, then this reader must be pointed (politely) that wikipedia is a hypertext, not a book or newspaper. And I don't take it personally. I didn't add a single entry to this article. I deleted from it even more than you. `'Miikka 17:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems you are placing your opinion over policy, your opinion is fine to have, but it does not dictate how we do things here. The policy is very clear that citations are to be in the article if the fact is challenged. Once again you have resorted to personal attacks by calling me lazy, when the work you want me to do is yours as you are the person who wished to include the info. I am going to place a warning on your talk page about personal attacks so that there is a record that I asked you to stop. I see now that the second "lazy" comment was directed at our readership, not me. Not much better, but not quite a personal attack either.. Until(1 == 2) 17:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Policy is superceded by common sense. Not to say that we have the disagreement about the interpretation of the policy. `'Miikka 17:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Also, you have a very selective reading of the policy: "but editors may object if you remove material without giving them a chance to provide references, etc.etc.". `'Miikka 17:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You have all the chance in the world to add citations. I don't object to the content if it is cited. I suggest you try the talk page of verifiability policy, WT:V, if you disagree with how the policy is now. I agree that common sense overrides policy, but if the sense was common we would both have it. That is what common means. It is not common sense when you think one thing and I think another. That is why there are preexisting consensus based policies. Simply put what you are arguing for is contrary to policy and is preventing me from performing regular cleanup of unsourced additions. Until(1 == 2) 17:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I see this is a dialogue of blind and deaf. That's why I requested the third opinion. If you like to cleanup of unsourced additions, you have a HUGE jobe to do, colleague. As a distraction you may try List of Romanian actors. WHOA! NOT A SINGLE entry referenced! Good luck. I am retiring from this thread. `'Miikka 17:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I on the other hand am going to go through the articles they are wiki-linked to and find citations, bring the entries into line with policy, and re-add them. I am not blind or deaf, we just disagree. It is okay if we disagree, it does not mean one if us is blind or deaf or lazy. Until(1 == 2) 18:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Mikkalai, I hope you see now that many of those entries were not cited, even the ones with wikilinks. They often link to uncited articles, they often say things the article does not say. Often the article says it, but no citation in the article says it. The reason for this is that WP is not a reliable source. By putting the citations next to the text I have found that about two thirds are uncited. And that list of Romanian actors, that is gunna have to change a lot or get deleted. Until(1 == 2) 14:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Finding sources for removed content

In an effort to move forward instead of in circles I am gathering citations. Here is my work log:

  • Re-added Golliwogg
  • Re-added Coloured
  • Skipping "Darky" no citation for the term in either of the linked articles.
  • Re-added Jim Crow
  • Re-added Mammy archetype
  • Skipping "Niglet", this has no source, no wikilink.
  • Skipping "Zanj", none of the references in the article Zanj mentions it being used as a slur, it is the name of a people.
  • Skipping "Raghead", "Ragtop", "Towelhead". No citation, no wikilink, Fact tags since May
  • Skipping "Chigger", links to disambiguation page, no reference to a slur
  • Skipping "Nip", while the disambiguation page it links to says "Nip is a highly derogatory term for a Japanese person", it does not cite any reference or refer to any article on the slur. A citation for this can most likely be found if searched for.
  • Skipping "Niglet", no citation at all, links to piglet
  • Skipping "Ping-Pong", it links to table tennis. This looks like a local Spokane, WA slang.
  • Skipping "Gaijin", since all sources are not in English, I cannot personally confirm any citations. If someone can read Japanese, or can find an English citation, please do.
  • Added reference to "Cracker"
  • Re-added Gringo
  • Skipping "Lao Wai", no citation, no link
  • Re-added Ofay
  • Skipping "Paleface", it links to a disambig page, which links to "White people". The disambig page does say it is a slur, but has not citation
  • Re-added Peckerwood
  • Skipping "pretendian", Wiktionary is not a reliable source, no sources listed there.
  • Skipping "White trash", no citation here or in article
  • Skipping "Whitey", disambig page calls it a slur, but links to non specific articles that do not mention the term. No citations
  • Skipping "Wigger", only source is not accessible to me, if someone else can confirm this source(Bernstein, Nell: "Goin' Gangsta, Choosin' Cholita", Signs of Life in the USA: Readings on Popular Culture for Writers, 5th ed. 605) supports the entry then please return it.
  • Skipping "Jjokbari", I cannot find an English source for this. Unless a word has a strong and demonstratable English usage then it does not belong here.
  • Skipping "Kraut", sources are in German or are dead links. This word should be citable with a bit of googling.
  • Skipping "Ivan" and "Ruskie", no sources given, no link given. These are words that can be cited with a bit of googling.

Any help would be appreciated. Until(1 == 2) 18:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I am taking a break from this now, but it appears that many of these were not cited at all, not even in the articles they linked to. Going through and actually placing the citations next to the facts has helped me find that over half of them were uncited. Until(1 == 2) 18:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Phew! That was a lot of work for a lazy guy like me. Many are uncited. Several of the uncited ones are likely to be citable, others look like local slang, or just something someone made up after school one day. I think the article has improved significantly due to this vetting. Until(1 == 2) 14:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Dicdefs

I have a better suggestion for cleanup. Since wikipedia is not a dictionary, not an indiscriminate collection of information and not a slang guide, I suggest to remove all nonnotable obscure and trivial entries, especially the forieign language ones. `'Miikka 18:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

That would seem to be in line with WP:NOT, unless a term has a demonstrated English usage, it does not belong on the English Wikipedia. Until(1 == 2) 18:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Third opinion regarding citations

Anything added to an article that would require a citation if it were to be included in a high school report should possess a citation. The fact that such a thing does not occur does not justify continued lack of adherance. While additions are, for the most part, not removed because they lack a citation, edits containing outlandish, ridiculous and wacky information often find themselves reverted without a warning. In this case, if Until(1 == 2) finds the edits made by Miikka to be so far-out that they are not to be believed without a citation (as they would not be by a high school history teacher), they should be left in the article, perhaps for a few days, with a [citation needed] inserted after the sentence, to give the initial editor a chance to source. Sources and citations should be included in each article, regardless of wikilinks. If, after a few days, citations are not provided, the edits can be reverted due to lack of verifiable sources. They may even be reverted immediately, but this is generally not done, in order to encourage new editors to stay with the project and not be scared away, or even for seasoned editors, as perhaps they sincerely made an error and forgot to cite. I hope this helps. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 20:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I am okay with restoration of the entries with citation needed tags for a few days. I have been going through what I removed and re-adding that which I can find citation for. I have gotten through the slurs against Africans, and am going on the the other ethnicities. Until(1 == 2) 21:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Unreliable sources

Okay now that I have removed the clearly unsourced, I am going through the existing source. Here is a tip folks:

Blogs, Forums, some guys webpage are not reliable sources.

Some of these "references" are stories about the day some guy met a crackhead. Look at WP:NEO for what constitutes a reliable source for any new word. Older words need citations that actually show how the word was used, not just the word being used. Until(1 == 2) 15:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I just went through the unlabeled refs and either labeled them or removed them for not being a reliable source. I will go through the rest later. Until(1 == 2) 15:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

ABCD

abcd is defintely not an offensive term. i'm indian, i use it. i've heard countless other south asians use that term. it's a description, not a slur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.133.169.226 (talk) 20:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Typo on first line

Surely "The following is a list of ethnic slurs that are, or have been, used in English language." should have a "the" before English Language.

I'd edit it myself but its a protected page.

Done. Thx. `'Míkka>t 16:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Minor errors

This article has a few errors.

Under African decent it has Wog as an insult toward an Indian person. Should that be corrected to a black person instead?

Chink and Honky are used in the UK as well as in the US.

Ann is included under European decent in addition to African decent. If it's a slur towards a black woman it shouldn't be under European decent, should it?

Also, Wog isn't used as an insult in Britain for 'any person of Mediterranean, Southern European, and Middle Eastern descent. Often used for Italians, Greeks, and Arabs.' I don't know about Australia, but that should really have a source. 86.10.75.40 (talk) 18:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

"Wog" is popularly supposed to derive from "Westernized Oriental Gentleman" but whether thats true or not I don't know.

"Nig-nog" derives from "Nigmanog" origanally meaning a stupid person. It only later became associated with black people by association with "nigger".Fainites barley 09:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

In the UK, Wog refers primarily to people of North African, Middle Eastern and South Asian origin. I have never heard it used of Subsaharan Africans or people of North East Asian or Malay/Thai appearance. The "Westernized Oriental Gentleman" thing is almost certainly a playful folk-etymology. Wog is never used in British English to refer to South Europeans (Italians, Greeks, etc); Wop is more likely in that case. However, I have frequently heard Australians use the term Wog in that sense. -- Edwin Greenwood (talk) 14:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
"wog" is now frequently used self-referentially by people of Mediterranean background in Australia. For example, the 1999 movie The Wog Boy. However, it would be politically incorrect for an Australian of non-Mediterranean background to use the term. The term "wop" on the other hand is rarely used but would be understood by older people.Eregli bob (talk) 05:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Smoked Irishman

This term is also used in the UK to mean a non-White (Black or South-Asian). I have certainly heard it in the North West of England, where there is a large population of Irish descent, making the subtext "another kind of bloody foreigner, this time dark-skinned" quite plausible. --Edwin Greenwood (talk) 14:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}

{{editsemiprotected}}

add Spook, an ethnic slur for black people. Used I only know in the U.S, and on some racist country songs, such as Nigger Hatin' Me by Johnny Rebel.

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 Not done - please provide an appropriate reliable source; "I heard it" is not sufficient for verifiability.  Chzz  ►  15:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


I do not know how to tackle adding entries in a semi-protected article. But definetly French needs an entry with at least "frog" as a derogatery term. Just in hockey games I know of fights that broke out on professional games because french players were gauded into a fight using that term on record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.128.23.239 (talk) 16:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

"nothing good comes from anon editors"

Thanks very much, why don't you go fuck yourself?

I was going to add seppo alongside septic, explaining that it's an Australian contraction of septic. But I can't do that, because "nothing good comes from anon editors". Well, if you're going to preemptively lock the page down, then nothing good will come from anonymous editors. Take your elitism and shove it up your arse. 94.193.244.17 (talk) 09:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Nip and Jap

So apparently derogatory terms don't exist for the Japanese. I guess Nip and Jap are fabrications without proof. but honky wigger and dago all dont need citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayscosa (talk • contribs) 23:32, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


You know, I'm tempted to contest that part about "Jap" - especially the "highly offensive" part. It seems like it's only in America that people are upset by this. Wikipedia agrees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap#Across_the_world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.11.175 (talk) 12:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Typo in "Paddy"

"Derogatory term for and Irish man, derived from a nickname for Patrick."

Should be

"Derogatory term for an Irish man, derived from a nickname for Patrick."

Thanks, fixed. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 20:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


also "mick" does not come from micheal, it comes from the patronymic system place "Mc" infront of the fathers name, like the scottish "mac" hence people from nova scotia are referred to as "mic-macs" because the general consensus that most residents are decended from irish or scottish!!!

Edit Semi-protected request 17 January 2011

{{Edit semi-protected}} Eggplant: a black person. In the 1979 classic film, "The Jerk", the leading character played by Steve Martin is advized by his associates to keep the "eggplants" out of his planned housing development. "Eggplants?" Steve asks. "Yeah, the Jungle Bunnies.", says the other guy. "Of course. Bunnies will eat the eggplants", says Steve. "No, I mean the niggers", says the other guy. "What!", says Steve Martin, "I am a nigger". Then he beats the crap out of the other guys and his friends. Hilarious.

Please Change the above quoted text, it is personal opinion. This isn't Reddit.

Please Change to:

Eggplant: a black person. In the 1979 classic film, "The Jerk", the leading character played by Steve Martin is advized by his associates to keep the "eggplants" out of his planned housing development.

"Eggplants?" "Yeah, the Jungle Bunnies." "Of course. Bunnies will eat the eggplants" "No, I mean the niggers" "What! I am a nigger".

Done You are correct; that's essential some vandalism that someone slipped in. removed now


Slurs to add: Macaca & Curry Nigger

Macaca: a racial slur referring to someone from India

Curry Nigger: a racial slur refering to someone from India

--Ramesh0987 (talk) 04:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


Is anyone going to add these? --Ramesh0987 (talk) 17:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Chinaman

This sentence is wrong.

Possibly coined by early Chinese Americans from a translation of "Zhong Guo Ren" which is literally "China" and "Person

Zhong Guo Ren literally translates into 'middle kingdom person'. China is a Persian word. Including this sentence it is misleading. Ren is also gender neutral so it's a extremely misleading statement to say it is literally 'china' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.9.173 (talk) 18:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Golliwogg (U.K.)

I'm iffy about filing 'Golliwogg' under 'Africans' because it doesn't quite explain the British usage in terms of 'ethnic slurs by ethnicity'. Three problems.

A) according to the history of British usage, 'golliwogg' was generally referred to British black people whose families hailed from the West Indies (the Caribbean), particularly the Windrush generations who moved to Britain in 1948, 1967 and 1971. Example quotes from this Guardian article [[2]]: "Most black people would see it differently. From the 1940s, particularly during the war, the golliwog's reputation was irreparably damaged by its association with the racial insult "wog"." and ""For as long as I can remember and I'm in my mid-40s, it has always been something people have used to poke fun at people like me," said Michael Eboda, publisher of The Power List of Britain's 100 most powerful black men and women..

B) during that period, 'golliwog' was used on British Indo-Caribbeans and British Asians, who were obviously not of African ancestry. A glimpse of an explanation why British Asian and black peoples were historically and informally lumped together: "One problem is that Black and Asian people are not always identified in the records. Sometimes - for example, in many army service records - a person's complexion is described, and sometimes the records may say that she or he is a 'Black', 'Negro' or 'Moor'. But frequently no such indication is given. Nor is there any way of being certain how many Black and Asian people lived here - nor, indeed, what the total population was, since the first national census was not taken until 1801 (and even that was of limited scope)." -- from Black Presence: Asian and Black History in Britain (The National Archives UK [[3]]

C) Most British black people generally refer themselves as British African-Caribbean (or British for short), Afro-Caribbean or a specific preference (such as Jamaican, Trinidadian and so on) as a positive acknowledgement of their family histories. Please note: I'm operating on an assumption that we're using Wikipedia's definition of Ethnicity.

Since 'Golliwogg' seems to be generally accepted as a British slur, I feel it should be filed under 'Afro-Caribbean' or 'African Caribbean' (British African Caribbean). I'm not sure what to do about British Asians, though. 0zero9nine (talk) 05:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

"Jap"

" Jap" is not an insult or slur, merely an abbreviation. Similar to "Brit" referring to British. Use illustrating this could be " I love the Jap car scene." "I always buy Jap electronics." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.189.4 (talk) 11:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Yellow

Central Asians and other darker Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc) as well as Arabs and Persians refer to blond Caucasians (mostly northern Europeans) as "yellow" and "yellow dogs" referring to yellow coloration of hair of blonde Europeans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by thecat86 (talk) 17:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Derogatory term for Irishman

Loayalist is a term of abuse used in the southern part of Ireland to describe the lowest type of character. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d6f_1283956307 http://www.info-nordirland.de/new_81.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/northern_ireland/latest_news/223209.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.233.241 (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Request for Edit

Under the definition of the word "Chink," there is an assertion which states, "...at least one U.S. school proudly used the term as a sports mascot until the 1980s." While that tidbit may be historically true, it's a minor piece of trivia which is extraneous to a brief definition of a term, and probably should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.170.246 (talk) 11:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

re: Ofay

Term used by African Americans to describe whites. Etymology unknown?

I've always heard that it's pig-latin for "foe." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.225.50 (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Merger

Since the article List of ethnic slurs of Jews was nominated for deletion and so decided "delete" on 16 October 2011, I have begun the process. I apologize in advance - I am rather new to the merging process, but it has been nearly four months now and someone has yet to do it so I am doing so now. Coreywalters06 (talk) 07:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

"Oriental"

I am under the impression that, at least in the US, this term is somewhat offensive when used to refer to East Asian people - although not in certain contexts, most commonly "oriental rug." In any case the assertion that it is not offensive is unsourced, and somewhat at odds with the description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient#American_English

71.187.255.57 (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I did not notice any discussion on pronunciation. e.g. "Munt" is pronounced similarly "moont" (although the "oo" sound is short.) --41.185.137.151 (talk) 11:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Spic ; a hispanic person.

"Spic ; a hispanic person." 

Is in the wrong section, it is listed under whites. where it should be listed under Mexican.

thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

And now there is no Hispanic section. Can we please bring that back? 108.169.151.118 (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Ethnic slurs in other languages

I came here looking for the exact definition and possibly a history of the word "ditsun," not sure about the spelling, but it's a derogatory term for blacks used by Italians. (DIT-SOON) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.1.57.94 (talk) 03:11, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 September 2012

Regarding East Asian descent: Oriental "not generally considered offensive." This is NOT TRUE. Oriental is offensive because it implies that Asians' place in the world is defined in relationship to Europe. While there is a parallel construction for Occidentals, this is generally only used in context after Orientals have been cited. 100broadway (talk) 21:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Done I've changed it. A quick check reveal three major dictionaries that say it's offensive, at least some of the time. The usage note here is especially helpful. Rivertorch (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

"Walsch" to "Italians" section

Please add "Walscher"/"Walsche" (person, singular/plural respectively), or "Walsch" (adjective) used by the german speaking minority in Südtirol (South Tyrol, italian province Alto Adige) to describe Italians. Originates in old german "walachisch" meaning "foreign" (the term is also the origin of region names like Wales and Wallachia). The usage is considered to range from disrespectful/derogatory to offensive. The term may also be used in Austria (Tyrol) and Germany (Bavaria). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.56.135.116 (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

european descent:

GORA - indian reference for euro decent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.153.234.226 (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Russki is not a slur.

Russki is not a slur. The article even says it is how Russians refer to themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.98.13.100 (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Which is why the article says it's "Sometimes disparaging." The OED agrees with the dictionary it's cited to in the article, calling it "Chiefly slang or colloq. Sometimes derogatory."— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Reference added

Don't have a lot of experience with editing more than 'minor edits'. Today I corrected the entry "Charlie" and have tried to add a reference (first time). Can anyone tell me if I've done it correctly? I couldn't make any changes to the actual reference listing at the bottom. I assume this is due to the pages' protection. If I'm missing something, please let me know. Xianjiro (talk) 06:16, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

It was OK. I expanded it and fixed another while I was there. You could have included a description before the closing bracket like so:
Taubman, Howard (24 April 1964). [http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/03/29/specials/baldwin-charlie.html "Theater: 'Blues for Mister Charlie'"]. The New York Times.
which would render as:
Taubman, Howard (24 April 1964). "Theater: 'Blues for Mister Charlie'". The New York Times.
But any bit that shows where the information comes from is useful. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:44, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Redskin "slur" should be clarified

The term originated from common usage of American Indians referring to themselves with this term. It was and is a term of endearment. Only in rare cases is it used as a slur in modern times. It was not a term given to American Indians by any ethnicity, as it was them that created the term themselves [1] I'm new to Wikipedia so any feedback would be nice. Thanks. Please change:

"Redskin 

   a Native American person, used because whites described tanned Native's skin to be "red"."

To

"Redskin 

    a Native American person, originated by Natives to describe themselves as different from the "white man" and used in rarity as an offensive term now"

Jmpitty (talk) 14:47, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Done I have tweaked the wording a bit to make it sound better in my head. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Mz7 (talk) 21:16, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

Americans / Merkin should be clarified

As a native British speaker, I've never heard the term "Merkin" used for Americans. I suggest this should be removed unless a valid citation of common usage can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.88.36 (talk) 11:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Done I could find no support of any British use beyond use in Usenet newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett. So I've listed it a internet slang. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Aboriginal Australians

Hori
(New Zealand), an offensive term for a Māori (from the formerly common Maorified version of the English name George).

This should not be in the section. Maoris are from New Zealand and therefore are not Aboriginal Australians. Two different countries people. I'm going to remove this, unless someone who has more interest in this page wants to correct this to it's own section.

I'll check on this 1 June 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scathsealgaire (talk • contribs) 11:39, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Fixed I moved it to Pacific Islanders. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:04, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Slurs for English?

Seems oddly missing. E.g. Limey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.185.175.124 (talk) 03:11, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Done I added a section for Britons. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:15, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Black Slurs

Negro "Buck" only refers to a male black (usually young) not females — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.209.22.49 (talk) 04:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2014

I'm seeing the word "slant" get used a lot in reference to East Asian people. I've been called a slant, and so has nearly every one of my east asian friends. So, I guess I'm suggesting you add it or something.

Ribbonista (talk) 14:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2014

Shouldn't be the ethnic slurs arranged in alphabetical order? 95.61.117.82 (talk) 18:54, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 23:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2014

Create two new categories within the European/White section covering the Spanish (the ones from Spain, not Latin Americans) and the Portuguese. Or maybe merge them with Italians since they share many ethnic slurs as Dago, Wog or Greaser 95.61.117.82 (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 23:10, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2014

For the Native American-European section Mestizo: Originally used in Spanish to refer very specifically to a person of 50% European and 50% Amerindian descent, nowadays used to refer to any Hispanic person of mixed Amerindian and European descent, regardless of proportions. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mestizo http://www.neh.gov/humanities/2010/septemberoctober/feature/the-united-states-mestizo 95.61.117.82 (talk) 18:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

 Not done Neither of the references you cite state, or even infer, that the word is an ethnic slur, it is just a definition. - Arjayay (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Wog

Wog can and has been used to refer to people from the middle east too. The current entry under 'Wog' should be modified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 13:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Input, Oreo, Coconut

Could someone enter "(see also "Coconut" below)" under the Oreo entry within the African-European section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.254.51.246 (talk) 23:46, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Done. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:40, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2015

Gaijin - Japanese for foreinger / Outsider. 

see  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin

196.2.64.183 (talk) 14:07, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

There's no real place to put this one, since they're categorized by ethnicity. Stickee (talk) 01:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Removed items with no reference

I removed these two entries as they have no citation. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:08, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Hammerhead
A term for Scandinavian-American people that refers to their (usually) Swedish or Finnish fore-fathers for being carpenters. It implies that they are good at building things and usually have abnormally thick skulls, implying they can hammer nails into their projects using their heads.
Weegie
A term for Scandinavian-Americans of Norwegian descent for being known as those who accept any dangerous job for cheap or low labor cost, such as being high-rise window washer (that uses a 'squeegie').

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2016

East Asian-European Banana (North America; UK; Malaysia) an East or Southeast Asian person living in a Western country (e.g., an East Asian American) who is yellow on the outside, white on the inside. Used primarily by East or Southeast Asians to indicate someone who has lost touch with the cultural identity of his or her parents.[112]

On this racial slur, in addition to "banana" I would also like to add "Twinkie". So it would read:

East Asian-European Banana, Twinkie (North America; UK; Malaysia) an East or Southeast Asian person living in a Western country (e.g., an East Asian American) who is yellow on the outside, white on the inside. Used primarily by East or Southeast Asians to indicate someone who has lost touch with the cultural identity of his or her parents.[112]

I have this from being called this and from personal experience

2602:30A:2CC0:5320:E1B9:DAE9:AC78:C245 (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

 Not done There is already an entry for Twinkie that mentions Asian Americans. I am sorry to hear you have been the target of such a slur. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:12, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

additional racial slur toward Native Americans

In a very celebrated and widely published u.s. govt document written, edited, debated, ratified, and signed by all members of congress, Native Americans as a race are, without any qualification whatsoever, called, merciless savages. Therefore, "savages" could be correctly added to your list of racial slurs against Native Americans. Jm8069337 (talk) 02:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

We do not include "general-purpose insults" on this list. "Savage" could be used to slur a broad range of ethnicities. See the explanation on the top of List of ethnic slurs that this list is suppose to be derived from. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 10:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

other slurs toward Native Americans

This article at mic.com gives that among the football team names "the Kansas City Chiefs (NFL), the Atlanta Braves (MLB), Cleveland Indians (MLB), Edmonton Eskimos (CFL), Chicago Blackhawks (NHL)," they are "..mostly Native American slurs." What sources can back that up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardAlexanderHall (talk • contribs)

The first thing to check is articles on Wikipedia. If it is mentioned in an article that it is a slur or something like that and it is sourced in that article, then you just need to put the item on the list and link to the article. If not, then good sources are dictionaries or glossaries. Newspaper articles that say someone used the slur and got in trouble for it work well. Works of fiction are not so good or even non-fiction personal accounts, because it is often the author's opinion that it is a slur, but even so they can be used. Sometimes you cannot find a source, even though it is defiantly a slur. So it doesn't make this list. It does not fix the world or right wrongs to have a slur on this list, but you would think so, how some people fight to get their pet slur on this list. It is not necessary to have every one of the world's slurs on this list, just the ones we can clearly source. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Are you joking about Greece now?

Greece has a valid historical reason to not want the name Macedonia being taken by nations that don't even speak a Greek Language or have a Greek history. Skopjan is absolutely not derogative, not now, not in the 90s that the issue was more heated. Some terms about them may be derogative but not Skopjan and a few others for sure. --77.49.29.139 (talk) 08:10, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

I mean what's next calling a Londoner derogative because I didn't call him English? Give me a break. That addition is obviously bigoted in itself. So that's a list of ethnic slurs you should look at, in your edits in wikipedia. --77.49.29.139 (talk) 08:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Being absolutely sure that I have never seen the term Skopjan being used as a slur in my life, I challenge Wikipedia to look into the IPs and accounts of those that insist adding that as being a slur. Because it will prove it will be haters and relevant parties involved. Wikipedia was supposed to be a cradle of truth, not lies by random anonymous editors. --77.49.29.139 (talk) 08:17, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

There are ample references cited which directly claim that Macedonians consider this reference derogatory, even if you think it is not so. there are even political controversies to this end. Please keep in mind that wikipedia content is based ion cited sources. Please avoid search for "haters" and "lies": wikipedia does not allow us to turn it into political battleground. Our policies forbid personal attacks. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

America =/= USA

America = North American + South America as logic dictates. Please change this. Typical arrogant, ignorant Septics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:4429:DD00:ACBC:E4CB:A433:7F2F (talk) 22:42, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Gypsy/Romany/Traveller

This article lacks any guidance on offensive/inoffensive terminology with respect to Gypsy/Romany/Traveller people. LaFolleCycliste 08:01, 17 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaFolleCycliste (talk • contribs) 08:00, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

"Whit trash"

The term "white trash" may have originated in the South, but it is by no means used only in reference to southerners. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:17, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

  • If the shoe fits in the Northwest... :) Drmies (talk) 01:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Beeblebrox, I made some tweaks--see if you think it's better. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Looks better. Up here we have "slednecks" but it's a self-applied term. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:08, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

You forgot one of the most obvious ones .... Polack .... for people of Polish descent in the U.S.

You forgot one of the most obvious ones .... Polack .... for people of Polish descent in the U.S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.107.16.122 (talk) 16:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

 Done, Thanks Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:49, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Commie is an ethnic slur?

self-explanatory. Admittedly, commie is a pejorative, but it's not referring to an ethnicity. There's also no citation for this, is this the dreaded "original research" I've heard so much about? Fredo699 (talk) 14:46, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing attention to this. We usually do not require citations when there is a link to an article that discusses the words usage as an ethnic slur. However in this case neither Commie or Comrade mentions these as slurs against Russians and I have not found a specific citation to support them as slurs. I have removed them for now. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I have no reference, but in the 1980s, "commie" and "pinko" were definitely shorthand slurs for Russian. 169.0.177.149 (talk) 02:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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More Pejorative Terms for White Americans

I'm surprised these weren't included and are some of the most well-known in the United States: Honky, Whitey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2500:6880:8aa:495b:d2db:3050 (talk)

This page is suppose to be a sorted version of list of ethnic slurs. Any cited entries on that list can be copied to this list. I have copied "Honky" and "Whitey" over. Post here if you notice any others. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:14, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Papoose

No evidence that this is a slur. 194.230.214.119 (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Removed as unreferenced. Thanks. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

"coon" not a common Australian racial slur

Coon may be a common slur for black people in other places but in Australia it almost always refers to coon cheese. Protomotor (talk) 03:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Per the citation this could be dated. See https://books.google.com/books?id=O3-sBwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PT179#v=snippet&q=%22about%201899%22&f=false However, we do not remove slurs just because they are dated and we would only say so in the entry if there was a citation that specifically says it is not in current use. Otherwise this would be WP:OR. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:43, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2018

Under East Asian should be the word coolie -- a derogatory term for Chinese people.

I am Chinese. I am 110 pounds and 5'4". I am an artist and was an engineer. I have never been a laborer and yet in the United States my colleagues and I have and are often called "coolie" or have been told "coolie go home". When I was a child, I was often referred to as a coolie. At Aragon High School, I was called a coolie. At UC Berkeley I was called a coolie. At Stanford, I was called a coolie. At MIT I was called a coolie. At shopping malls, I have been called a coolie. At grocery stores I have been called a coolie. While walking down a street, I have been called a coolie. This word is derogatory, offensive, and insulting. Hick, honky, and whitey are not nearly as offensive and yet you define as such. These words against the white man are at least used to describe behavior of the white man and not used for maliciousness.

Snowman3624 (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC) Snowman3624 (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Done. An entry "Coolie" copied from the List of ethnic slurs. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

List synchronization

re: the edit request above

Is anybody willing to cross-update List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity and List of ethnic slurs ? It appears there are more discrepancies.

Another idea: to merge the two lists into a single sortable table with columns

|Term | Etnhicity |Description | Area of usage | Language of usage

Staszek Lem (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Israeli Slur

An slur for an Israeli is Sand Jew. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norsig (talk • contribs) 17:58, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this statement? See WP:CITE. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:46, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

The inaccuracy of this.

This list has an large amount of incorrect and inaccurate slurs while also having an extreme lack of slurs against black people but have a lot of false slurs on the white americans list. -cattleyadawns (talk) 23:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to add any reliably referenced material. Editor2020 (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Red Neck

The term red neck is missing for White people, sometimes more especially English people. --105.0.4.245 (talk) 23:46, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

It is under Americans. Use outside America seems rare and/or obsolete per article Redneck. If you feel it should be under European or somewhere else, we could look at it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:16, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Additions needing citations

Additions to this page are as follows: 'Slope or slopes' used for some Eastern orientals, supposedly from thier sloped heads; the term 'night fighter' used for American blacks because thier dark skin allows them to see but not being seen; 'Salt water nigger' used for some Pacific Islanders (specificly from Guam) because of thier dark skin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roland Senften (talk • contribs)

Thank you, however we need citations from reliable sources for these to be added. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hook-nose

Often used to refer to Jewish people due to their nose shape — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.110.78.172 (talk) 09:02, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

This link mentions it is not specifically connected to Jews. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Finngolian

Derogatory term for Finns due to racial roots and language similarities — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.110.78.172 (talk) 09:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

See WP:UNSOURCED. We do not add items to this list without a citation for a reliable source. Also WP:RS. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:38, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Gopnik

Derogatory term for Russians, based on the word го́пник meaning thief (a stereotype of Eastern Europeans and Russians) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.110.78.172 (talk) 09:09, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Gopnik has an article and is a slur. However it seems to be just calling someone a young criminal. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

This page is nothing more than gratuitously racist and inflammatory and has little educational value. For this reason it should be deleted!!!!

This page is nothing more than gratuitously racist and inflammatory and has little educational value. For this reason it should be deleted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IqbalHamid (talk • contribs) 00:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

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I found this page useful because I was watching a documentary of comedian Lenny Bruce, from 1965, and he was commenting on racism and diversity in America, and he cited terms unfamiliar to me - terms used more in the 50s or 60s, seldom heard today. So, I had to look up the terms, and I found some of them here. There is a real research use for this kind of information, and that's why slang dictionaries (a legitimate research resource) include all of these terms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.240.254 (talk) 17:39, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Making knowledge available is what we love. Please continue to enjoy. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2019

Add "Barang — (Cambodia) any white person." to the European section. Dmitriiweb (talk) 05:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 07:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
I found a citation, seems to be only a slur in some contexts. There is an article for it, but that article has no citations. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Sudaca

Hi there, in south america and specially in Spain theres' a term to refer to people from this origin, i suggest to add Sudaca, here the code and reference:

Sudaca
Is the spanish pejorative expression to describe a person from Latin America or 'Sudamérica' [1]

BTW: i'm technically a Sudaca too but even it's a pejorative term is widely used between latin americans too to describe our common origin

--Barrabas11 (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Real Academia Española". rae.es. Retrieved 22 April 2019.
Thank you very much for suggesting this. I added it, but made the description brief. I added (Spain) because that is what the citation say. It is known these words are often used outside any mentioned geographic area. To mention anything about your personal experience would be WP:OR. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Request to add ethnicity

A ‘tandy’ is a derogatory term used to distinguish someone of Indian ethnicity. Origins appear to be in regards to the color of the skin, tan. Kurvestav (talk) 22:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

We would need a citation to a reliable source before we could add it. DuncanHill (talk) 22:11, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

another slur for white people

in ethiopia you have two ways to refer to a white person, one is 'farengi' ,meaning a white foreigner ,usually mild and not offensive, and 'nech' ,a more offensive one - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dizinteria (talk • contribs)

We need a citation to add this. See WP:RS. I googled some,but did not find anything suitable. Even something non-English would be OK. As long as it is accessible. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


-- White people in South America -- In South America, people with European roots are called "Curepi" by people with native Guarani roots. It is a common term used by people from Paraguay for people from Argentina. Its meaning is "pig's skin". Most sources are on Spanish: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curep%C3%AD https://twitter.com/hashtag/curepi http://untref.edu.ar/diccionario/buscar.php?q=218&p=curep%C3%AD https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/kurepi https://www.infobae.com/2009/09/09/471283-paraguay-que-los-argentinos-les-dicen-curepies/ https://www.asihablamos.com/word/palabra/Curepy.php http://espartacorevista.com/nota.php?id=32 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.216.192.73 (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done and thanks for suggesting it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:30, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Words missed on Russians

add Katsap and Moskal (the latter while technically meaning "Muscovite", "Moscow-dweller" and even used as surname in Ukraine, still is a slur for today it seems to strip identity from Russian, and there are fringes in Ukraine who seriously claim today Russians have stolen the name from some "original" Russians and some "original" Rus, that they allegedly then killed off). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.90.116.114 (talk) 10:13, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I added "moskal". "Katsap" is listed at Wiktionary, but I do not see a citation anywhere. Wiktionary has a quotation where it is used and that may be enough for Wiktionary, but we need a citation that says it is a slur specifically, not by inference. Otherwise it is WP:OR. Maybe later I will look for one. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2019

scallywag noun scal·​ly·​wag variant spelling of SCALAWAG 1 : SCAMP, REPROBATE 2 : a white Southerner acting in support of the reconstruction governments after the American Civil War often for private gain 2606:A000:5083:5C00:2DF5:435D:F1B5:E21E (talk) 02:15, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Highway 89 (talk) 04:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding the slur "tonk"

This word is often used by the US border patrol as a pejorative for (particularly Hispanic) undocumented immigrants. Their excuse is that it is an acronym for "true origin not known", but this is widely thought to be a backronym, and its true origin is onomatopoeic for the sound made by hitting somebody's head with a flashlight, which ICE agents are accused of doing. The slur being recognised on a list of slurs may be helpful to those who have been victims of it, and there have been several cases of border patrol agents using it in a very derogatory fashion in leaked conversations or public Facebook chats. Whether or not it was originally intended as a slur, it is being used as one now, and I feel it belongs in this list as a slur against Hispanic people (who are often profiled as being undocumented immigrants no matter their citizenship), and apparently it has been used against Chinese-Americans in the past as well. AdrenalineVan (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done Puduḫepa 22:40, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Gringos intervencionistas y concha de su madre

This slang should be added. I'm chilean and this expression is used exclusively for a certain group that is not necessary to name right now. We should totally add it. If you have heard the expression and you feel it should be added, comment. 190.46.205.93 (talk) 05:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Spic

Please supply a citation and a translation. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2019

Gringo is also used for Europeans in the whole of hispanophonic part of Southamerica. 46.140.166.36 (talk) 15:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sceptre (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2019

Wagon Burner- native americans (red people) who used to burn the wagons of the white man. can be used to offend the native people.

https://definithing.com/wagon-burner/ Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). Vanillaisthebestdogever (talk) 03:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:53, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

British: Jap, Dago, Wop

The reference to "Jap" does not reflect British usage. It is not used as an insulting term, e.g. there are mainstream events such as "Jap Show" for Japanese cars. e.g. http://www.japshow.co.uk/index.php

"Dago" as far as I'm aware always means a Spaniard and "Wop" is missing for Italians. 79.78.60.213 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

"Jap" is not on this page. See the Jap article. I believe you about "Dago" and it is mentioned on the Dago page, but I am reluctant to add it to this page without a citation. We would have to add a "Spanish" section. "Wop" is there. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:25, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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