Talk:List of chess players by peak FIDE rating

2926

What does that even mean "2926 (unofficial)" for Carlsen? : ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A317:4C3E:8980:4CD9:46E8:7F07:ECC1 (talk) 23:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Wei Yi

Somebody should update Wei Yi's position on the list, now that he has achieved a new peak rating. I'd like to do it myself, only I'm terrible with tables on Wikipedia. FinalForm (talk) 08:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

What about women?

Why not have a section on women?? 2500 as a cut off minimum for peak rating. Even though men and women are on surface considered equal in chess they are not. Results show that. So I think this "List of chess players " should contain section on female players, as they also play the game. 213.149.62.12 (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/36698/list-of-female-chess-players-by-peak-fide-rating-with-countries Thewriter006 (talk) 00:21, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Inflation

Today we have a jump in rating by around 100 point as opposed to 30-40 years ago. Also players say that today it's easier to build rating that it was in the past. It would be good to cover that. Maybe like average rating for top 5/10/20 in every decade and highest rating achieved in a decade. 213.149.51.126 (talk) 16:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 17:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Flags

The Country column isn't well handled. Flags are much harder to understand than text. I can't speak for everyone, but I recognize Azerbaijan at a glance with 100% accuracy, not so much. Second, listing every federation a player has been associated with in this table isn't smart. In this article the only relevant federation is the one the player had when they achieved their peak rating, so there should be exactly one entry per player.

Shirov is a perfect (that is to say, terrible) example that lists four federations, including Latvia twice for reasons impossible to discern from this article (although understandable perhaps to persons familiar with his peregrinations). The comment for Shirov helpfully notes that he was the highest rated Latvian player until 2018 which might lead the reader to assume that his peak rating was when he represented Latvia, but of course that's false.

Also as a matter of taste, the breaks into sections of ratings by irregularly spaced groups (2825-2899, 2800-2824, etc.) is strange and just makes the table longer and harder to read. The ratings are easily picked out of the Peak Rating column so this clutter isn't helpful. Quale (talk) 03:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Erroneous equals signs

@Chessrat: I noticed you inserted some erroneous equals sign relatively recently in 2016 in this edit (which I've since corrected). Any idea how that happened? e^πi (talk | contribs) 09:38, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

It's not erroneous- equals signs denote when there are two players on the same ranking. (For example, if two players are #6, then "6=" would be used to denote this.) Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 18:11, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@Chessrat: Ah, I see. My apologies for misunderstanding.

I think this is somewhat unclear without a key. One way resolved this would be to turn each = into a tooltip, for example {{Hover title|tied|{{=}}}} displays =.

However, this issue is not restricted to this page, though it's not common; I've found around 100 other pages that use = for a similar purpose. I would like to look at this issue in more detail before implementing the solution here, because it would be better to have consistency across multiple lists than to have piecemeal inconsistent implementations.

I'd appreciate your feedback on this suggestion. e^πi (talk | contribs) 00:39, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@E to the Pi times i: That seems reasonable, and I have no objection to that tooltip being used. I was somewhat surprised that this was even a problem, as I had thought using an equals sign in this situation was standard well-known notation– however, clearly not everyone is familiar with this notation, so there's no harm in clarifying it via a tooltip. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 05:40, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Chessrat: Out of curiosity, where else have you seen this notation? I haven't seen this notation before, and it's not widely used on Wikipedia. e^πi (talk | contribs) 18:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@E to the Pi times i: I recall seeing it in various places (books, etc), but unfortunately I couldn't find many sources- not sure where to begin looking... I did, however, find it on historical chess rating lists, e.g. this list of highest-rated players in 1971 (although that version is slightly different as it doesn't use the equal sign for the first occurrence of a position number, but it does use it for subsequent ones). Sorry I couldn't find anything more useful than that- will let you know if I come across anything else. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 03:03, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

wesley so Formerly highest ranked Filipino player (until 2014) at 2755, 2014-08 and in general...

do you guys want to keep the rating as is with only 1 entry per player instead of like 1 entry per player PER country?

For example you can see lists here https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/36691/list-of-chess-players-by-their-peak-fide-blitz-rating https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/36698/list-of-female-chess-players-by-peak-fide-rating-with-countries like multiple entries for So, Wesley, Firoozja, Alireza, Muzychuk, Anna, etc (and Muzychuk, Mariya but I guess for Muzychuk, Mariya it's not really about country but achieving the peak rating more than once [under the same flag] )

besides wesley so, it looks like the list also has the ff in similar situations: Boris Gelfand, Alireza Firouzja, Alexei Shirov, Sergei Movsesian, Étienne Bacrot, Arkadij Naiditsch, Liviu-Dieter Nisipeanu

aaaaand not really familiar with wiki but are there like what polls for this? if 1 other person replies in agreement and no one else replies for awhile then does that mean we have permission to edit the page as such? i mean someone could always just disagree and revert it... (and then comment in the talk page after the reversion/revert/reversal(/grammar?)...)

Thewriter006 (talk) 00:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

why did wesley so change?

previously: 'Formerly highest ranked Filipino player (until 2014) at 2755, 2014-08' eg 7 September 2021

currently: 'highest ranked Filipino player'

Thewriter006 (talk) 13:11, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Alexander Grischuk 2811.2

what is up with the 0.2?

Thewriter006 (talk) 13:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Y Incorrect rating of 2811.2 was given. Changed this to the correct peak of 2810. Verified from FIDE rating list, player page, top 100 player's of all time FIDE list and player wiki. APGP360 (talk) 02:10, 22 November 2021 (UTC)APGP360

FIDE does not quote decimal points in its rating system. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 04:29, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

magnus carlsen 23rd?

what is '23rd' in '2014-05 23rd' ? like May 23, 2014?

Thewriter006 (talk) 12:01, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

sources for the 2800+

btw in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_chess_players_by_peak_FIDE_rating&diff=prev&oldid=1058591461 i didn't source the youngest 2800+ re carlsen and kramnik but here you go: https://www.chessgraphs.com/

Thewriter006 (talk) 07:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Bogdan-Daniel Deac missing in this list

[Bogdan-Daniel Deac]'s highest ELO was around 2700. Why he isn't at the list? 158.181.81.192 (talk) 02:01, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

wesley so highest ranked filipino-born?

'I removed the comment "Highest ranked filipino born player" from wesley so, because, if we really consider it, we will have to write such statements for so many players like, fabi, firouzja. Its best not to mention the "highest ranked x-born" title'

but then taken back next edit? soooo changed mind? it's actually ok to say it? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_chess_players_by_peak_FIDE_rating&type=revision&diff=1114439795&oldid=1114380835 Thewriter006 (talk) 16:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Bassem Amin - who removed 'Only medical doctor to achieve a 2700+ FIDE rating' and why please?

put it back here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_chess_players_by_peak_FIDE_rating&type=revision&diff=1114462655&oldid=1114439795 Thewriter006 (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

No. It's not sourced and it's immaterial. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 17:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

1 - why immaterial?

2 - why unsourced? i got it right here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassem_Amin#Personal_life

https://twitter.com/nicbentulan/status/1578159287083618304

https://twitter.com/nicbentulan/status/1578159291424727040

Thewriter006 (talk) 23:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

There are no reliably sourced citations for this proposition; Twitter is not a reliable source and the individual's own article has no sources at all for this proposition. Please read WP:RS thoroughly before you respond to this.

But how is it material that someone is the first person who holds a particular degree or works in a particular profession does something? It is unencyclopedic trivia. Must we now designate, say, the first meteorologist who achieves such a rating? The first U.S. Department of Labor administrative law judge? The first certified project manager? How is it somehow of encyclopedic interest that this person is a medical doctor versus having any other "day job"? There is not actually anything particularly special about being a medical doctor. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 16:50, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

fair question. grandmaster and doctorate/phd is 1 thing. but SUPERGRANDMASTER and doctorate/phd is another thing. https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/36830/both-grandmaster-and-phd-doctorate

Do you know Gasai what I mean? Thewriter006 (talk) 09:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

twitter is not reliable? well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_random_chess#cite_note-71

"Personally, It is refreshing to watch the Chess960 match between Carlsen and Nakamura. As a chess player and a fan, this is an exciting change. Could this be the future?" — Vidit Gujrathi, February 2018

https://twitter.com/viditchess/status/962369203352276993 Thewriter006 (talk) 13:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

'How is it somehow of encyclopedic interest that this person is a medical doctor versus having any other "day job"? There is not actually anything particularly special about being a medical doctor.' --> Wait lol what? Which superGM today has a "day job" ? Thewriter006 (talk) 15:14, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Did you know Gasai that every chess player rated higher than above bobby fischer (2785 peak FIDE) is still alive?

I think it's the open version of 'TIL every female chess grandmaster is alive.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualTodayILearned/comments/teiotb/til_every_female_chess_grandmaster_is_alive_while/

https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/36885/are-all-female-grandmasters-alive-as-of-the-date-of-this-post-2021sep01

Thought it might be worth mentioning similar to the female case. Thewriter006 (talk) 15:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)