Talk:List of Ouran High School Host Club chapters

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volume 2[edit]

why is volume 2 skipped--75.138.22.156 (talk) 14:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, someone hadn't gotten to it yet. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-up[edit]

High-hough. Over the next few days, I plan to tackle some of the cleanup issues as tagged, among them putting the chapter list into the standard {{Graphic novel list}} template, adding publication info per standards for these kinds of lists, adding references, and generally beefing up the lead. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One missing piece of information I can't find: the ISBN of the Chuang Yi English edition of volume 8. Not even AU/NZ bookseller sites are helping here, though maybe I'm not looking at the right ones. (I managed to find the Chuang Yi Chinese volume 8, but that's not exactly helpful here.) Any assistance here appreciated. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I might ask a stupid question, have you tried searching Amazon for it? —Dinoguy1000 22:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All the Amazons, yup. Well, I think I skipped French Amazon. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There -- cleanup, or at least my round of it, complete. There's things to do yet -- most notably the volume summaries should be gone through by someone who's read the series more recently than more than a year ago, but also the whole could use a copyedit by an outside eye. But we have now a solid B-class manga list, and I'm changing the rating to reflect that. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References for publisher[edit]

I'm having difficulty finding good references for some of the publishers, especially for lanuages I don't speak. If anyone can find urls at the Chuang Yi Chinese, Elex Media, Haksanpub, and Panini France websites that demonstrate the company is publishing Ouran, that would be way useful. Location of a press release announcing or claiming a license agreement would also be appropriate. (I've been able to confirm all these publishers, just not with a source considered reliable enough to use as a citation.) —Quasirandom (talk) 16:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adaptation details[edit]

The details of which chapter became which episode doesn't really belong here, for two reasons:

  1. Wikipedia treats the original format as primary and a thing-in-itself, with information about how other formats were adapted going with the adaptation. In other words, not here but in the list of episodes.
  2. It's the consensus, tested many times at FAC, that while bare events of plot can be written without reference outside of the story, details that require interpretation (such as a motivation that's not stated) must be referenced to a third-party reliable source -- and while on the face of it, that chapter 1 was adapted as episode 1 might seem to be patently obvious, that is an act of interpretation. In other words, it's unreferenced.

Because of this, I'm removing them from the article and placing them here, as a holding pen, until such time as they can be moved to the episode list and referenced:

Chapter 1 = episode 1, ch2 = ep2, ch3 = ep4, vol1 bonus = ep12, ch4 = ep3, ch5 = ep5, ch6 = ep6, ch7 = ep7, ch8 & ch9 = ep8, ch10 = ep9, ch11 = partly adapted in ep21, ch12 + vol2 bonus + ch13 = ep10, ch14 = ep12, ch16 = ep14, ch17 = partly adapted in ep24, ch18 = ep15, ch19 + ch20 = ep16, ch21 = ep11, ch25 = ep25, ch26 = ep25 & ep26, ch28 = ep17, ch29 + ch30 = ep18, ch31 = ep19, vol7 bonus + ch37 = ep20, ch32 = ep21, ch33 = ep24, ch34 + ch35 = ep22, ch36 = ep23

Thus. —Quasirandom (talk) 02:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There -- copied to the episodes talk page. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Volume 3 Japanese publication date[edit]

According to the discussion sidebar on page 17 of volume 3, it was actually published a month earlier in Japan then was announced at the end of the first edition of volume 2 (to quote: "Those of you who own the first edition of volume 2 may know this, but volume 3 was actually published a month earlier than announced.*" with a note reading "Japanese edition"). Is this worth noting anywhere? —Dinoguy1000 19:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. I mean, publisher schedules shift around a lot, in any country, both with delays and advances. Unless it caused a particular stir (a clammour for more noticed by the media, say) then I won't see a reason to include it. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All right, that makes sense. The only reason I asked this at all is because a note was actually made of it in the manga, something I've never seen before. —Dinoguy1000 20:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen similar notes, I think, in other series -- not many, but a handful. Including one apologizing for a delay. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, fair enough. I'm definitely not as widely read as many of the people in the project, so it's hardly a surprise. ^^; —Dinoguy1000 21:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next Chapter[edit]

When are they going to upload the next chapter?Mooncrest (talk) 23:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's already been uploaded... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.28.216.65 (talk) 02:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

B or C[edit]

God, the metadata fix edits aren't quite working right. Sending to WP:MANGA/ASSESS anyway to request the B-class checklist be filled out. ~ Itzjustdrama? 21:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Until someone fills in volume 13's chapters, it surely isn't B.... —Quasirandom (talk) 21:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, really. I would have liked to format it as "001" "002" as the featured chapter lists do it. But the chapters have no names, so I think it might look as little strange. ~ Itzjustdrama? 22:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It'll be interesting to see what happens when a chapter list for a series with untitled chapters reaches FAC. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Truly. I don't know what to do about the Chapters not yet in tankobon format section. It has excessive detail by taking 3+ lines to describe a single chapter, but then again it looks strange with untitled chapters. The formatting is weird too. ~ Itzjustdrama? 00:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That part's not such a big deal -- I think we can edit those down. It's getting the ones that are in volume 13 into it, that I want to deal with first. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Probably the worst way to do it , but judging by the dimensions of the volume and comparing it with the others it seems to contain up to chapter 62 (about 170 pages). Then again I can be way off, but it's my best guess at the moment. I still wouldn't use it in the table though. ~ Itzjustdrama? 05:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the B-class checklist. Here are some comments for improvement as well:

  • The article requires an image.
  • The lead needs more work, refer to List of Claymore chapters for a good example—normally it is possible to adapt the FL's lead for use in this article, make sure that all relevant information is mentioned in the lead.
  • Try to keep summary lengths consistent: it has a more appealing look and feel.
  • Consider updating the list items to resemble List of Claymore chapters's format:
Now:
No. Original release date Original ISBN English (North America / Singapore) release date English (North America / Singapore) ISBN
1 2003-08-05978-4-592-17448-62005-07-05 (NA)
2006-08-11 (SG)		[[Special:BookSources/978-1-59116-915-4+%28NA%29+%3Cbr%2F%3E+%7F%27%22%60UNIQ--templatestyles-00000011-QINU%60%22%27%7F%5B%5BISBN+%28identifier%29%7CISBN%5D%5D%26nbsp%3B%5B%5BSpecial%3ABookSources%2F981-260-617-3+%7C981-260-617-3%5D%5D+%28SG%29 |978-1-59116-915-4 (NA)
ISBN 981-260-617-3 (SG)]] Parameter error in {{ISBNT}}: invalid character
  • Chapters 1–3
  • Extra Episode: Hunny's Bun-Bun
  • Egoistic Club
(Summary here)
Recommendation (Shamelessly borrowed from said FL). Note that dates are not linked, and note the layout of the Chapter list, Volume title and Cover characters. I have read that the chapters does not have names though... Not even in English? Personally I prefer the ISO dates though.
No. Original release date Original ISBN English (North America / Singapore) release date English (North America / Singapore) ISBN
1 January 5, 20024-08-873220-0April 4, 20061-4215-0618-1
  • 001. Silver-eyed Slayer (銀眼の惨殺者, Gingan no Zansatsusha)
  • 002. Claws in the Sky (天空の爪, Tenkū no Tsume)
  • 003. Memory of a Witch (魔女の記憶, Majo no Kioku)
  • 004. The Black Card (黒の書, Kuro no Sho)
  • EXTRA SCENE...
(Summary here)

Good luck with the article.

G.A.Stalk 05:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. It'd be good to do that last, especially the dates, but we can't do the chapter and volume titles, because the manga chapters are untitled, nor are the volumes. Kinda makes it hard. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As I have noted above... Is there some alternative? G.A.Stalk 16:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not even in English. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
List of Fruits Basket chapters has the same problem (no chapter or volume titles), and it's already been to FAC (not sure why it failed, I've never read the discussion). The chapter listings here are actually modeled after FB's list, too. —Dinoguy1000 17:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It failed because real life caught up with me and I was unable to deal with the fiddly little details, such as getting someone else to copy edit it. The FAC reviewer didn't seem to have a problem with the chapter/volume title issue, that I recall. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, G.A.S.. I'll see if I can find those vol 13 chapters. I think some of the references are confused too. They're using Madman, the Australian distributor, to confirm the releases in Singapore. ~ Itzjustdrama? 04:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That would, again, be my doing. Madman redistributes the Chuang Yi edition, and as best as I could tell, releases them at the same time. This is verifiable (though not with reliable sources -- which is to say, by online sellers) for the most recent volumes, and as best I could tell for the first volumes as well, but not beyong the shadow of a doubt. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Character Names[edit]

I couldn't help but notice that almost every reference in this article to Mitsukuni Haninozuka and Takeshi Morinozuka reference their given names (Mitsukuni and Takeshi). However, to my experience the more common name for them in the media is their nicknames of Mori and "Honey". This is definitely true in the anime, I'm not sure if it is the same in the manga. I would suggest, aside from initial introductions (which should be changed to include the nicknames in quotes as in Mistukuni "Honey" Haninozuka) be changed to Honey and Mori, to make it more reader friendly. Any objections? StryyderG (talk) 23:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is as true in the manga as the anime. It takes a few chapters for Haruhi to learn Mori's full name, even. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I figured as much. Unless someone has any objections to this I'll probably make the change later today. StryyderG (talk) 17:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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