Talk:List of Nisekoi episodes

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C-class status[edit]

The article is good enough in its present state to be given C status. But it has no references. Even if a few references are added the article will become good enough for C-class status. So whoever made this article should please give at least one reliable source for confirmation or verifiability of the article. Thanx. King Of The Wise (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Yeah, I did it myself. It needed a lead so I added one, even though I knew nothing about the subject of this article. Then I did a bit of research and improved the lead to make it a proper one. I did all that the tags wanted us to, and so removed them. And added certain refs. Good enough for C-class now. Although a reference to a source that gives a complete list of all these episodes, at the least there names and release dates, would be a good addition to the article. Welcome :), if you are thanking me :P. King Of The Wise (talk) 19:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not C-class. The references are barely there and still point to characters from the main article. There's no description on the broadcasting of the series in Japan, summaries of the overall anime series. If anything it should be merged back to the main article as the main one's Anime subsection is really skimpy now. And it's definitely NOT mid-importance. -AngusWOOF (talk) 05:14, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:AngusWOOF, I know that you might be more experienced than me but i tend to disagree. The article given in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Assessment as an example of a typical C-class article is this version of List of Da Capo episodes. I might be a novice but I am no dumb novice. I don't know but I am quite sure that this article is atleast as good as, if not better, than that version of that article. It contains all that is required by a C-class list as per the assessment scale of anime and manga. Anyways I might be really wrong and you are more experienced so I'll except whatever you decide. Plus, i am in no way connected to the article. Infact, hitherto, I did not know anything about this Nisekoi. I had not even ever heard the name. I was just here assessing the article so as to empty the category of un-assessed anime and manga articles, which I have done. But I saw that the article had certain tags and though it straightforwardly was a star-class list it had the caliber to be a C-class one. So i tried to find info and whatever I have added is purely by research. So i do not really care for what happens to the article but I'd think it was a C-class article now. P.S - I do not really know if the Channels and timings section should be there in this article but i think it will give some important information to those who read this page as many only want to know the schedule King Of The Wise (talk) 12:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for filling in the front paragraphs; looks much better now. I'll see how to shorten the broadcast schedule. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't you think we should use "Nisekoi at ANN" in the general references and crunchyroll in the external links instead of the vice versa, which is currently the state. Because we got much more info from ANN than from Crunchyroll. Also I do not see much info about Nisekoi and its episodes in Crunchyroll compared to almost everything about the anime at ANN. King Of The Wise (talk) 18:10, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The ANN entry is user-edited so it isn't reliable per WP:ANIME/RS. The news articles from ANN are OK to use since those are by staff. -AngusWOOF (talk) 00:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've bumped this back up to C-class. When the series is done, we will see if an English dub is planned. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quick B assessment[edit]

  • The airdate ref uses crunchyroll's "Available for premium user" date. Find a source that explicitly states the airdates.
  • I passed B5 on the grounds that media images are gray areas for episode lists.

DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You know, you guys have really "buffed up" all the classes' criteria. See the B1 criteria here - Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment/B-Class_criteria#B1. It says - "It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited." The article has got quite some reliable sources in comparison to most other B-class episode-lists. And all important and "controversial" things are cited. Anything that might be challenged. I don't think the "airdates" are such a thing and I seriously doubt that someone will challenge it (for as it goes, the airdates are correct see - [1] (and if you think this source is allright we will add it) ) Also the "Premiere" dates in the broadcast table below are well referenced and since it first premiered on Japanese TV on 11th Jan, which can be seen through that column, and since it run weekly, this too can be seen through the table, any reader could easily see that the airdates are correct. As thus the airdates are already referenced through the well-referenced table further in the article. Plus even if it would not have had been, the article was easily passing this "B1". Air dates is no way a challenge-able or controversial thing. And the article is mostly pretty well referenced. The criteria i not at all as strict as we have made it to seem. I mean even - "The use of neither <ref> tags nor citation templates such as {{cite web}} is required.". Anyways the airdates are referenced in the way i said and the crunchyroll ref i just to supplement the indirect ref. Please tell what you think. King Of The Wise (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I added the day broadcast schedules from one of the major channels (tochigi) so that each airdate premiere should have a time, title, and episode number. The anime website itself only lists the premiere dates and news about specific broadcast's timing changes such as delaying broadcast by 20-30 mins while others are on schedule. -AngusWOOF (talk) 14:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, yes, the anime page itself lists only the premiere date and timings but it gives direct links to the schedules of all of the channels it lists. As such it is acts as a common access point for the schedules of all the channels on which the anime is aired. And seeing the premiere date of the channel it was aired on first, and the fact that it runs weekly, the air dates are automatically proved correct. For example the first time it premiered on any channel was 11th Jan, which is shown by the anime site and which can be further verified by going to the schedule site of any channel the link to which the anime site gives, therefore 11+7=18, +7=25, +7=1.....and so on. Thus it, although probably indirectly, is clearly and easily verifiable through this article itself. That was what I was saying. I really do not think that a separate reference for each and every date is needed. King Of The Wise (talk) 14:49, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Whatever will make it pass B1. -AngusWOOF (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I found a better schedule list from Tokyo MX, so we don't need the weekly broadcast cited. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good Work dude :) . King Of The Wise (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways User:DragonZero, I reckon the article is easily passing the criterion B1 now? You wanted a site that "explicitly" states the air dates now each and every air date has an an "explicit" and reliable reference. I hope it can it be upgraded to "B" now, can't it be?King Of The Wise (talk) 15:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing was buffed, this is the standard I've been assessing for Anime Manga for nearly two years. Yes, air dates can be challenged. I had to clear away incorrect dates for List of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion episodes which had been there for years. As for WikiProject Anime and manga/Assessment, a discussion was brought up about how some current examples fail to uphold the current standards. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:DragonZero, Well I never said that airdates can not be challenged, what I said was - "I seriously doubt that someone will challenge it (for as it goes, the airdates are correct see - [2]....". I said that no one is going to challenge it because it is definitely correct; while in the article you gave as an example the airdates were wrong so naturally they were challenged. I even gave you the way to easily determine and verify that they were indeed right. Anyways, it does not matter. I am quite happy that the article got B-class status, for, to be truthful, i had not really expected it. Anyways, to think that an article whose mere existence was being questioned no more than 3-4 days ago has gained B-class status. I must say that you have done quite some real good work AngusWOOF, for the article to have achieved this Thumbs up icon. King Of The Wise (talk) 12:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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