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In the register that an encyclopedia ought to have for its writing, "notoriety" is a word with a strong negative connotation, reserved for axe-murderers and so forth, not for entertainers...although I'm willing to entertain suggestions that an exception be made for Slim Whitman and that "You don't eat pigs" guy. Anmccaff (talk) 15:58, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree :)--BabbaQ (talk) 21:37, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nja. notoriousness and notoriety are not the same. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:28, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, but in modern English they are - see [1][2][3]. But neither is the same as "notability". Davidships (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The title of the Eurovision song in this article was changed from April, April to April, april in May 2009 without explanation, but at the same time as the song's still completely unreferenced page was moved from April, April on the basis "Title is wrong - see also sv:April, april", but that is not a RS. Although all three references used in that article[4][5][6] use the April, April form, the Swedish page might be like that because, while the word is spelled the same in both languages, the names of months do not appear to be proper nouns in Swedish. Nevertheless, the April, April form is the only one I can find in English-language reliable sources. It is therefore a moot point (in the English sense) whether April, April is an "established English-language treatment for a name" or a translation of the Swedish, but either way it seems to me to be the right one to use in this article and in April, april. WP:UE, MOS:TITLE#Translations and WP:NCCAPS seem to provide the most relevant guidance. Davidships (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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