Talk:Libyan Arabic

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q and g[edit]

The article says that the 'qaf' has shifted to 'g' in Libyan Arabic. However, the perponderance of evidence is that the tribes that settled in Libya already pronounced it as 'g', just as much Arab tribes do in Arabia. Any other opinions? Slacker 13:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Actually, I am pretty familiar with this fact, but I got carried away by the dialectological discourse as it usually flows in the Arab world. You know everybody here believe that dialects are degenerate versions of Fusha.-- hɑkeem_¡ʇu^{ɐ^ɹ}ɯǝǝʞɐɥ 15:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly the pronunciation /ɢ/, perhaps even /ɡ/, is pre-Islamic; but nevertheless /q/ is older, as attested by the general Semitic evidence. So it is true that it has shifted, just perhaps not in Lybia itself. But you also say that Germanic /p/ has shifted to /f/ in modern German, even though that already happened in Old High German. I don't see a problem. 2.203.201.61 (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Libyan, Algerian and Arabia's dialects[edit]

Many words in Libyan and Algerian are unique to certain Yemeni Arabic dialects. I was watching an Algerian movie and heard them use the word (ghodwa) for tommorow. I never heard any Arabs use that word for tommorow except in Central Yemen (Almantaqa Alwasta, not literally central). I never know the word Dwe, Ga'amiz, Ngaz were used outside of Yemen! Also the use of the verbs is similar if not exact in many occasions to South Arabic. Ofcourse many of this has to do with the ow population of Libya and the big settlement of Banu Hilal/Sulaym which reflects the major influence of the dialect they used--Skatewalk 20:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

N'gaz and Gmaz are actually used very frequently in Nejd, with the meaning of "jump". N'gaz is also used in al-Hejaz. -- Slacker 23:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I seeit all the way in Libya. I am not surprised to seeit in hijaz. I think Arab dialects change from a town to a town. So if the towns to the North of you use a certian dialect that doesn't mean its isolated? and you can see it in other towns?

I was always curious how different is Arabic of Medina and Mecca? Mecca (had many immigrants), Median had (Azds and Jews) You know how in the Quran the verses are Meccan and Medina verses. Do you notice the diifference? (besides the Tashree'i and Tahtheeri difference)?--Skatewalk 00:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Najjaz, is stil used (as finish fast). Qam'az/Gam'az is when you set the camel, or when the girl is sittin shy they say (miquma'aza). Gmaz/Gvaz means jump (Nat', Naba'a) are also other ways to say jump in South Arabia.

Libya is unique because their dialect actually is more isolated and had fewer influences of (internal dialects and Ajami) compared to other Arab nations. --Skatewalk 00:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would be very interesting to do a comparative study of the dialect of South Arabia and those of North Africa (Sa'idi included as well). Alas, not only is there a shear lack of interest in such matters in the Arab world, the whole field of Arabic dialectology is looked upon with suspicion by most, citing the stale argument that dialectology is a slippery slope to separatism within Arabic.-- hɑkeem_¡ʇu^{ɐ^ɹ}ɯǝǝʞɐɥ 15:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Calling Libyan Arabic a Sulaimitian[edit]

The beginning of the article is mentioning that Libyan Arabic is also called Sulaimitian, it is something unheard of and we Libyans do not use that, and the references don't show anything of significance, and it caused a lot of confusion to non-Arabic readers. (Sharriffo (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Hi @Sharriffo: it's mentioned as an alternate name in three reliable sources so it should be mentioned in this article as well. (Whether you call it like this or not.) a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 08:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]