Talk:Leo Baeck Institute

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There's a lot more sourcing available on the institute if anyone wants to expand before I get back to it. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 20:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

so why did you remove the sections on the various activities and subunits just now? I do not see how they reflect POV, or spam. I'll add them, in rewritten summary back just in case they are copyvio. DGG ( talk ) 01:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

have no doubt something can be written about LBI, but that material wasn't it. It was both promotional and a copyvio with sections lifted directly from the org's own site.There's a ton out there, but the orgs promo material isn't the best sourcing. StarM 03:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yes, I realise that. There's a problem in actually finding material for what one actually knows about directly & has never bothered to. It's holding me back on a number of topics. DGG ( talk ) 03:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I know your problem there - for example I know the National Museum of Catholic Art and History is closed. I've walked past it on several occasions but its close wasn't newsworthy so I can't cite it. I know you're not intending to use spam to write an article - was explaining why I was removing the other attempt to do so. We're on the same page with no time. StarM 18:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Leo Baeck Institut[edit]

The other article, though more encompassing of the whole organization and not just New York, references websites in London and Jerusalem that use the "Institute" spelling, which would be proper English titling anyways. Would leave the other article as a redirect. LilHelpa (talk) 15:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incipit - definition of L. Baeck as "assimilated Jew"[edit]

The statement "Baeck represented the modern assimilated Central European Jew" is misleading; Baeck, undisputed moral and political leader of the German Jewry in Nazi Germany and president of the Reichsvertretung der deutschen Juden („Reich’s Deputation of the German Jews“), cannot be labeled as an „assimilated jew“.

From a sociological point of view, an authoritative definition that resumes the current research stand on the phenomenon of assimilation can be founded in J. Milton Yinger: Toward a Theory of Assimilation and Dissimilation. In: Ethnic and Racial Studies. Volume 4 Number 3, July 1981, p. 249-264, already quoted in the german-speaking Wikipedia article about assimilation (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assimilation_%28Soziologie%29, 16.09.2012). Here a quote from Yinger 1981, p. 249 : „Assimilation is a process of boundary reduction, that can occur when members of two or more societies or of smaller cultural groups meet. Seen as a complete process, it is the blending into one of formerly distinguishable socio-cultural groups“

In the Jewish Virtual Library, „assimilation“ is described with relation to jewish modern history as „the sociocultural process in which the sense and consciousness of association with one national and cultural group changes to identification with another such group, so that the merged individual or group may partially or totally lose its original national identity“ (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01522.html, 16.09.2012)

The definition of Baeck as an „assimilated Jew“ represents a misunderstanding of his commitment to liberalism and integration and as such should be removed.

AljoschaKaram (talk) 01:51, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]