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Refered to by first name?
Why is he called "Lenny" here rather than "Kravitz"? -- Tim Starling 07:27, Aug 17, 2003 (UTC)
Jewish?
The following message was added to the article itself by 24.185.144.209 (I've simply moved it here):
- This article contains a misnomer. Lenny Kravitz is not in fact Jewish.
- His father is a Jew, but his mother is not. According to Jewish law, Judaism runs along the matrilineal bloodline. Furthermore, there are no 'halves' in Judaism. One is either Jewish or not, and if ones mother is not Jewish, then the child is not Jewish.
- Patrilineal inheritance is not recognized by any part of mainstream, and even much of assimilated Judaism. The congregations that adhere to a duality of Jewish inheritance not only go against four thousand years of the Jewish religion, but indisputably, the Old Testament/Torah itself. Jewish descent by Father is not recognized by the State of Israel.
- To sum up: One is not Jewish if one feels Jewish, nor if one's father is Jewish but mother is not. One is Jewish only if one's mother is Jewish.
- According to jewish tradition, you are "jewish" and can be accepted into the religion without any further proceedings. However, that is from the jewish point of view and one of their prerequisites. He is probably of the hebrew "race", but anyone's religion is a personal matter and choice.
- The editor would like to state that this correction was not made to slight Lenny Kravitz or his family. It was made in order to correct an untruth. If the editor may say, the world Jewish community would've been proud to have him as one of their own.
- - Internet Editor
Reply to the "correction" above:
- The original article does not in fact contain the "misnomer" alleged by the author of the above comment. The only occurrence of the word "Jewish" in the article refers to the artist's uncle, Pfc. Kravitz, who died in action in Korea.
- As far as the author's discussion of the meaning of the word "Jewish," he/she is certainly right about the matrilineal bloodline being the official criterion for a child's recognition as a Jew by the Jewish RELIGIOUS community, but ends up confusing the words "Jew" and "Jewish."
- To clear up this confusion, "Jewish" quite simply refers to someone who practices Judaism. A person can become Jewish by conversion without having a drop of Jewish blood in them. By that standard, Lenny Kravitz may or may not be Jewish, depening on his religious beliefs and membership status in the religious community.
- Being a Jew, on the other hand, is a question of ethnicity and genetics. In that sense, being of Jewish descent--by father, mother or both--qualifies one for being considered a Jew, in greater or lesser degree, quite irrespective of the standards applied by the Judaic religious establishment, or even the State of Israel.
- In fact, historically, antisemites and persecutors of Jews have had far looser standards for recognizing someone as a Jew than the Jews themselves. It is well known that the Nazi regime, for example, would consider a person to be a Jew if he/she had a Jewish ancestor as far as four generations back.
- To sum up, in their current, standard, secular usage, the words "Jew" and "Jewish" refer to ethnic origin and religious adherence respectively, and in view of this, Lenny Kravitz is certainly partly a Jew and at the same time may or may not be Jewish.
-- Hadal 04:28, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- In agreement with the above. There is no such thing as half Jewish. If one's mother is Jewish then one is a Jew. As a Jew, I believe Lenny Kravitz would be most welcome into the family of Israel.
Well that's nice....even though my father's Jewish and my mother's Catholic and guess what religion I am...JEWISH!!
- "One is not Jewish if one feels Jewish, nor if one's father is Jewish but mother is not. One is Jewish only if one's mother is Jewish."
Wow. I'm sure Sammy Davis, Jr. would appreciate that.
That statement is massively insulting to those who have converted to Judaism and borders on hate speech. 128.226.37.28 16:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Well Lenny himself refers to himself as Christian, so clearly he does not "feel Jewish" as some of you have written. I think it should be corrected in the below links. It's misleading. Why peg him as a Jew when he clearly isn't one and it's almost irrevelant that his father comes from Jewish ancestory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.173.98 (talk) 03:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- The maternal line argument is illogical. Your mother is only Jewish if her mother is Jewish etc. To determine if you are Jewish you must trace your maternal line to its end. Traditionally, this would end with Eve. If Eve was Jewish, everyone is Jewish; if she wasn't no one is. If you prefer evolution to Eve, then no one is Jewish because everyone's maternal line extends into the animal kingdom.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Eve wasn't Jewish. The first Jews were Abraham and Sarah. The maternal line being Jewish counts converts to Judaism. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 13:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Vegetarian?
Hi, can anyone please provide sources that prove that Kravitz is vegetarian? Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni 06:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Lenny Kravitz and Christianity
Aside from his ancestral heritage, I am surprised no mention of his personal faith has been made.
If you look at many of his liner-notes and lyrics (and even tattoos), one will find that there are many Christian references.
A few off the top of my head are:
e.g Rosemary lyrics "All you need is Christ to receive it." e.g Liner-notes to Let Love Rule "My deepest gratitude to Jesus Christ...." e.g. A tattoo on his back declares, "My heart belongs to Jesus Christ."
IMHO This is something about the actual LK worth adding, instead of talking about genes and ancestory.
- I'll add Christian rock to the genres if nobody raises an objection. It's fairly self-evident, but I can grab a bunch of references if needed. "So drop your chains and take up your cross" Hcobb (talk) 16:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Absolut paragraph
Can someone please edit this last paragraph? The grammar makes my eyes bleed. Kaylel 03:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Done
Justify My Love
There is an error in the article and I'd like to correct it.
"Justify my love" by Madonna is NOT a cover version of any Lenny Kravitz song. Kravitz simply co-wrote it and his (wordless) vocals can be heard on the track.
ThanksSykwaan 12:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I would have to add; Why is the content in "Justify my love" called explicit in this article? Nowhere in the Music Video does a "explicit" act take place.
Thanks,
TUCRACMAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.33.79.62 (talk) 13:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Prophet or time-traveller?
There's a paragraph in the Early Career section stating that he separated from Lisa Bonet in 1993. The next paragraph states that an album he released in 1991 is about his split with Bonet. I can't load the quoted source in order to check/correct this.
- They seperated in 1991 according to "Behind The Music: Lenny Kravitz" as listed in References. Updated and cited to correct this. dissolvetalk 19:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
hard rock?
okay why is the only genre Lenny is listed under Hard Rock? first off, hard rock is very far from the first choice of genres i'd choose, but it's not even that it's the only genre listed! that puts him in the same genre as Guns 'N Roses, Metallica, and Kiss! the closest song he has to hard rock that I can think of is American Woman, and even then. Come on, a revision anyone? Kei-clone 00:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- The rock and psychedelic rock genres were deleted with no source or explanation. I reverted it as they are sourced in the references. dissolvetalk 01:15, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with that. --63.226.95.7 (talk) 06:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Well,its not about what you would choose is it Kei-clone? And yes most certainly some of his music is hard rock. What do you think Are You Gonna Go My Way is? Soft pop? Classical? Country? Come on,a brain anyone?--70.149.147.210 (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- We need to follow the majority of the sources here. Nobody cares what we think. So let's reflect, not judge. Hcobb (talk) 03:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Step into your own life !
Lenny Kravitz: reading in the sites of: Nadiya, Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: October 2, 2007: Gretchen Wilson: December 2, 2007: Ercan Saatci: Vikipedi: Uli Beckerhoff: Wikipedia: the messages are written longer than two weeks ago: you must to search: written not to translate: you can get there the informations how must to look like a professional lyric system: the new production have grammy quality but not clean: possible to get a grammy: ..... : do it better: with SELPE: AFT: accostic finger tapping: and: EFT: electro finger tapping: combinate: wishing you the best to the grammy awards ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.177.149.202 (talk) 16:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
What does the above mean?--70.149.147.210 (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Jewish
In Early life, it is stated that he identifies himself as Jewish..But the citation provided is not a web link. I could find an article in the web with same title(http://www.associatedcontent dot com/article/3170/proteus_at_the_border_being_biracial.html), so I assume its the same. But in the article, nowhere he says specifically that he identitifies himself as Jewish. Only thing that was said was that his mother advised him to identify both races. Isnt the sentence "he identifies himself as Jewish" squeezed in as an OR? Suigeneris (talk) 22:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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new band
it is strongly rumored that lenny will become the new lead singer of "velvet revolver", replacing scott weiland anyone confirm/deny if its confirmed then it could help the article :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.226.28 (talk) 07:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Lenny's divorce and date of seperation from Bonet
The article stated Kravitz and Lisa Bonet were seperated in 1991 according to Behind the Music and that Kravitz and Lisa Bonet were divorced in 1993 according to the article Lenny Kravitz - Brother with a different beat. This was cited in the references list making it clear that his 1991 album Vanessa Paradis contained songs on the album about Bonet as referenced in the same article and thus noting the exact year Lenny was writing songs about his breakup with Lisa Bonet. Csnu5 (talk) 09:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Missing section?
Under "Career" it seems like some information is missing. Under the first section it mentions his decision to drop the name "Romeo Blue" but there's no original mention of that name anywhere before that in the article. Also there's no mention of his meeting or marriage to Lisa Bonet, just the mention of when he was already married to her and their separation and divorce. I don't have time to go back through 500 edits in the history but I presume someone removed the missing info, but it needs to be put back in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiritquest (talk • contribs) 04:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)