Talk:LGBT culture in Brighton and Hove

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Why create this article?[edit]

I've created this article by copying all of the content from a section in the Brighton article. I've done this to help with clarity of the Brighton article. There's too much information to be included on the Brighton page and enough to deserve its own article. --Seaweed 18:51, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Putting the B & T back in LGBT[edit]

This article does not discuss bisexual or transsexual people or issues on their own terms. And what about transgender people? Omphaloscope » talk 16:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know of at least two groups for both demographics; Brighton Bothways and Mermaids, respectively. Might I suggest you write something about bisexual and transgendered communities in this article yourself? --Psyk0 11:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there's another one, Mermaids is a national organisation rather than Brighton specific AFAIK. Trans-wise there's the MissTG pagent which has run here for the last few years, and The Clare Project a TS/TV/TG drop in. No mention of Winter Pride here either? ZoeP 18:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Historical stories[edit]

I don't know when the stories appeared, as all this text was copied from the Brighton article. However, the first story about the soldier doesn't seem very relevant to this article. It's not really about the "community". The second is a bit more relevant, but with no sources given. I'm inclined to remove the first one, unless anyone thinks differently? --Seaweed 20:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics and population[edit]

Where are there reliable sources on the LGBT population of Brighton and Hove? It's one of those statistics I've often seen written in papers or websites, but with no actually soruce given. It would also be interesing if there were statistics about the demographic profile of the population. Any ideas?--Seaweed 20:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When the results of 'Count Me In Too' come back, we'll hopefully have some demographic profiles of the LGBT population. In the meantime, the only thing close to an official source I've seen is a booklet by a group called Spectrum who operate down here, but the figure in that booklet was an astonishing 25-30%. Surveying sexuality is always tricky, of course; there are the inherent problems of representativity, being embarrassed or unwilling to reveal it, being unsure of your own sexuality, and then there's the issue of whether sexuality is rigid anyway and how it interacts with gender. --Psyk0 11:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im a Trustee of Spectrum and yes, there is always an element of guess work involved in pinning down what portion of the local population identify as LGBT. I think its fairly clear though that its higher in Brighton than many other Citys due to migration. Count Me In Too will give a good break down of the internal demographic of the local LGBT community though (age, gender etc). Right now its looking like the first report will be ready by the Spring.

Any chance the results from the newer Count Me In Too publications can be fed into the article? I just happened to notice that this article hasn't been updated for a while and it reads itself more like a list than something I would want to study more intensely. I'm not really surprised it is rated as 'sub-class'. I'd be happy to volunteer to do some cleaning up but someone who is more familiar with the reports should be able to filter out the relevant information in a fraction of the time that My Slowishness would require. I might do a bit of editing myself though in the next few days if I find the time.--verytallgirl 2:11, 04 July 2009 (GMT)

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This made me think and dig for data...

"The 2001 census revealed that Brighton and Hove had the highest proportion of same-sex households in the country at 1.29%: some 2,544 individuals said that they lived with a person of the same sex.[1]"

I wondered what 1.29% represents: 1.29% of Brighton's population or 1.29% as a percentage of all households in Brighton?

B&H analysis of census data reports: 247,817 people in Brighton in last census (2001). http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/downloads/bhcc/citystats/1_CityProfile.pdf

2,544/247,817 = 1.03% of total population.

But it gets more interesting because the census actually has details on number of married and co-habiting couples (I am excluding single person households, lone parents with children and the "other" category).

Married couple households................................................................................23.9% Cohabiting couple households...........................................................................11.6% Total 35 .5%

35.5% of 247,817 = 87,975 people married or cohabiting. And here is the interesting bit: 2,544 out of 87,975 = 2.9%

Which means that L&G couples makes up just under 3% of the total "couples" population.


(I assume "lived" means "in a relationship" otherwise you are going to be counting a lot of students sharing a flat). Thuriaux (talk) 10:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New LGBT Historic England project[edit]

Hi all

I work for Historic England and we currently have an LGBT project called 'Pride of Place' where we're trying to map all the LGBT-significant places in England (see http://mapme.com/prideofplace) - feel free to add some things!

kind regards, Dominic Martin

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No sources in History section[edit]

The History section tells a clear story of how several historic events led to the LGBT community establishing itself and growing in Brighton and Hove, however there is not a single source listed for any of the claims made. For example, "evidence suggests that a floating population and good transport links with London helped its reputation as a place for the LGBT community" should at the very least specify what it means by "evidence". "During the Second World War, Brighton was filled with soldiers" should specify what it means by "filled" with a source, otherwise it's simply a weasel word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.184.223.176 (talk) 09:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]