Talk:LGA 775

Picture misleading

The picture seems to show the processor upside down in the bracket, although it shows the new "pin" design, those looking at it as a reference will be installing their processor upsidedown and might damage it. I don't know if this is a concern, but I thought I'd mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.87.169.75 (talk • contribs) 12:44, April 20, 2007

There is no processor in that picture. It's just the motherboard, with the socket's retention lid closed. — Aluvus t/c 21:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Implementation Date

Any clue, when Socket 775 was first implemented? Iodine Galaxy 08:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Some time around May 2005 was when the first commercial boards were available.- Mtekk 01:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It was earlier than that, I had an LGA 775 board in Sep 2004. --Holderca1 22:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I hadn't touched anything LGA until the spring of 2005 so that's where my estimation came from. X-bit labs claims it was June 21, 2004 in http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/lga775.html, which I think is more accurate. So I'd say it was the 21 of June 2004 - Mtekk 02:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please write this into the article

Bent pin issue

Needs some citations. Lotsa unsourced comments flying around there. ---Ransom (--71.4.51.150 00:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

Just to be clear; I believe that's also what the weasel word tag refer to, as in "many motherboard vendors"? I couldn't see much to object against before that section anyway. -- Northgrove 08:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the bent pin section is a load of bollocks, personally. CPU pins rarely get bent in my experience. And if they do, generally you get a chance to straighten them if it's minor. These sockets on the other hand... They bend very easily and destroy the motherboard. There's no chance to straighten them because of the design. Supertin (talk) 01:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Latest socket?

"Socket T, also known as LGA 775, is Intel's latest desktop CPU socket" - this statement should be changed to something that will hold true over time. Already I believe Socket M is newer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.27.117.154 (talk • contribs) 03:39, November 18, 2006 (UTC)

Socket M isn't a desktop socket if I remember correctly -Mtekk 03:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

LGA775 - Socket 775

Socket 775 is the same as LGA775, isn't it? Please help! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deeliz777 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

Yes they are the same in this case, Socket T, LGA775, and Socket 775 are the same, though conceivably someone else could make a PGA775 socket causing problems, though that probably won't happen. - Mtekk 01:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the correct name for this technology is LGA775, LGA 775, and ONLY LGA775. It's not a socket, it's a Land Grid Array. Stop calling it a socket, people! Socket T was what it was referred to BEFORE it was officially named LGA775. The "Socket" name no long applies. It's outdated. It's not what LGA is offcialy called. It's done. Finito. End of use. Full stop.--71.17.189.252 (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Socket 775 Pentium M and Core 2 Duo

Can you use a new Core 2 Duo in a Pentium M Motherboard, since they are both the same socket? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sbdarnell (talk • contribs) 21:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

The Pentium Ms do not use Socket 775, which this article is about. And no, no Core 2 Duo will work in a Pentium M motherboard because of chipset incompatibility and a physical incompatibility. Core 2 Duos (the laptop parts, not the desktop parts) will in many cases work in Core Duo (and Solo) compatible motherboards. — Aluvus t/c 08:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Article should be renamed

In my view, the article should be renamed to "LGA775" for the following reasons:

• The architecture is not a socket and does not involve the use of a socket.
• On their website, Intel refer to this architecture most commonly as LGA775 (for more details, see below under "Intel".
• It is the most common term for the architecture found by Google (for more details, see below under "Google".

Intel On 2007-03-03, I used Intel's Advanced Search facility (http://mysearch.intel.com/corporate/default.aspx) to search for the most common terms for this architecture and got the following results:

• Socket T: 11 occurrences
• Socket 775: 3 occurrences
• LGA 775: 89 occurrences
• LGA775: 294 occurrences

Google On 2007-03-03, I used Google to search for the most common terms for this architecture and got the following results:

• Socket T: about 468,000 occurrences
• Socket 775: about 2,130,000 occurrences
• LGA 775: about 1,380,000 occurrences
• LGA775: About 6,630,000 occurrences

Kipholbeck 19:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Right now all of the above mentioned articles (names) are redirected to Socket T. As Socket T was the originally used name, keeping it as such makes sense even though the old name has fallen out of usage. As for it not being a socket, by the article CPU_socket, PGA and LGA (BGA as well) are both considered sockets as they are methods used to attach the CPU to the motherboard. The difference between a socket and slot is a slot uses a riser card, everything else is a socket. The AMD LGA socket is referred to Socket F, hence socket is still relevant terminology. - Mtekk 03:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Calling it an "architecture" would not be meaningful to most readers (including me), would conflict with the more common use of "architecture" in computing, and would ignore that it is in fact a socket. That it has pads on the processor instead of pins isn't really important. The processor drops inside a physical socket, which essentially covers it on all sides. It is certainly consistent with the description in CPU socket. As for the name, LGA775 is the name I see most often, though I personally tend to refer to it as Socket T. The industry seems to have largely settled on LGA775. — Aluvus t/c 03:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

This all seems a pretty convincing case for renaming to LGA775 or Socket 775 - how come it didn't happen? — ciphergoth 11:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's a Land Grid Array, not a socket. Re-name this article as LGA775, pronto. --71.17.189.252 (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

You haven't made much of a case that "land grid array" and "socket" are mutually exclusive groups. You seem to be assuming (in this comment, and the one a few sections above) that a socket must necessarily be PGA, but that's not really true. There are legitimate reasons to consider a rename (principally that LGA775 seems to be the industry- and Intel-preferred term), but the mere fact that it is LGA and therefore somehow "not a socket" is not one of them. — Aluvus t/c 03:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I made the rename a few days ago following these discussions. — ciphergoth 17:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC) you have a dinner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.29.37.50 (talk) 03:03, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Weasel Words?

Who threw the weasel words template on? I don't see why it's needed. -134.29.155.214 17:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the Weasel Words refers to the bent pin issue. I am not sure that portion of this article adds anything to this article. I propose it simply be removed and I think that would clear the weasle words issue and improve the article.

Bent Pin Issue necessary?

I just read through this section and noticed it was horribly worded, and probably shouldn't not be in this particular article. The concern it makes is specific to Land grid array setup and not specifically Socket T. Both Socket T and Socket F are LGA sockets and not specific to Intel chips. I recommend removing the bent pin issue section entirely in this article as it bares no encyclopedic relevance to the specific socket. --142.59.19.129 18:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Picture additions

Can someone add this picture to the page? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LGA_775.jpg. It shows the underside of a LGA 775 processor instead of the current picture which appears to have an upside down CPU improperly inserted into the motherboard. Can we use this picture along with a picture of a properly installed LGA 775 CPU (preferably one with the serial numbers visible)? --68.48.57.75 (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

There is no processor at all in the picture currently in the article. (I should note that this came up previously, currently at the top of this page, with a different picture that also did not have a processor in it). As for showing both the motherboard and processor, I don't see why not. — Aluvus t/c 01:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Locking force

Shouldn't we mention here that this socket requires quite a bit of effort for installation? I was pretty much surprised by the force that was needed to lock the pushing lid of the processor in place, compared to the older ZIF designs, when I first installed it. I believe this could be useful. --Khathi (talk) 17:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree,I had to take a deep breath before installing my first chip in an LGA775. 

As for the talk about bent pins being rare on pga chips,Ive seen dozens of them. Its not as common,but my impression has been that LGA775 is much less prone to problems. Its true however that bent pins in my experience only seem to occur on chips that are removed (often for upgrades) and stored improperly (of course,by definition proper storage prevents damage,and anything else is improper). Ive yet to see a LGA771 motherboard with a damaged socket. To put it in perspective,Socket 478 broke retainers left and right,and socket 370 and earlier were just horrible (little plastic tabs broke off the socket,also shared with many amd sockets) and I wont even go into the pre-zif sockets. 40 Pin dip anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.201.150.94 (talk) 15:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

How long before LGA775 is phased out?

LGA775 has been around for a long time (since the Pentium 4 Prescott). When will Intel phase out CPUs for the LGA775 for good (thus effectively phasing out LGA775)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.10.11 (talk) 14:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

LGA775 is already dead. No new CPUs since 2008/2009 (Wolfdale (Core 2 Duo) and Yorkfield (Core 2 Quad)) and there won't be any in the future. The low-end ones currently still being sold (Celeron and Pentium Dualcore mostly) are just left-over stock. Once they're gone, that's it (sadly).

It's already damn near impossible getting good, new LGA775 motherboards. Almost all of them that you can still buy are low-end G41 junk. LGA775 is dead. And so are LGA1366 and LGA1156. --84.62.154.101 (talk) 06:59, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Evolution from LCC

LGA is essentially LCC in a larger size with a lot more contacts. Long time PC techs experience with LCC was mostly with the 80286 CPUs in such a package. The CPUs clamp down the same way, but the heatsink for the 80286 was part of the clamp. I only ever saw 12Mhz and faster 286 CPUs in LCC, the heatsink really wasn't needed, the CPUs never got the least bit warm. Bizzybody (talk) 10:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)