Talk:Kurma

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Untitled[edit]

Paged has been vandalized. I removed whatever was obvious vandalism. Someone more knowledgeable will need to touch up the article.

Martalli 18:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Changes[edit]

Made quite a lot of changes:

Rewrote the entire story in a more simple manner.
Removed the reference to "Korma", an Indian dish (vandalism?)

Feedback welcome from all!freewit (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kurmaraja redirects here[edit]

Kurmaraja redirects here, but it is not clear (to me at least) that the Kurma avatar of Vishnu, which supported the Mandara mountain during the Samudra-manthana, is the same as the Kurmaraja which is believed to support the whole earth. Someone with more knowledge should clear this up in the article. Shreevatsa (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Samudra manthan[edit]

See Talk:Samudra_manthan#Merge_with_Kurma. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kurma and sage Kashyapa[edit]

The tortoise Kurma is also called Kashyapa in Sanskrit as well as Indian languages like Hindi. In Vedic mythology, they may be synonymous as per the theory quoted in the article. However, in Puranic context, Kashyapa - the progenitor is a different individual and equating him to Kurma and adding the sage Kashyapa-related info here is WP:OR and WP:UNDUE. As such, removing the same.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If Kurma<->Kashyapa link is supported by scholarly sources, in another context, then it is obviously not OR and it is WP:Due in this article. You have a point though, and it is better to explain the context and the differences between earlier and Purana view for NPOV. I am additionally moving the tag to the appropriate section where there are many paragraphs without a cited source. Please see my comment below. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 00:42, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ms Sarah Welch, in June 2020, there was info about the sage Kashyapa from the Puranas, where he is not explicitly linked to Kurma - the tortoise. Example [1], [2] which is UNDUE IMO. The Kurma<->Kashyapa link should be noted, no doubt about it.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced content[edit]

@Carlduff: You have clearly put significant effort in this article, expanded it greatly and added many sources. That is welcome. I see you have added sources such as Vedabase web pages of Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, without author name, without publisher, no evidence of peer review or such information. We should seek scholarly sources and views that has general mainstream acceptance by scholarship. Since the vedabase.io source alone is cited some 34 times, instead or mass tagging, I request that you take another look and replace/add second source that is an independent WP:RS. Further in subsections such as Skanda Purana, many paragraphs you added did not have and currently do not have any cited sources... please fix. Every para should cite a good quality source for WP:V. @Redtigerxyz, Joshua Jonathan, and Kautilya3: you may have additional comments. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(ps)Carldduff and t/p watchers: Consider expanding the Temples etc section of this article with the help of Desai source, and the sources she cites over 17 some pages, in the paper titled Kurma imagery in Indian art and culture, published by Artibus Asiae. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed by the amount of info. Going through their talkpage reminded me of their attitude, though. Nevertheless, impressed. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Joshua Jonathan: My attitude is perfectly valid when dealing with deceitful and manipulative hacks like you and your friends that ruin other people's work and then push them off this platform. I dread to think how many contributors have left because of you alone. Had the admin here not been so inept / corrupt / apathetic, you would have been given the boot long ago. Carlduff (talk) 09:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, attitude. Not changed a bit. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]