Talk:Kingswood School

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Photos[edit]

Can someone PLEASE add a few photos of the place? The article really needs at least 1. (Many photos on Flickr, search 'Kingswood School').

Alumni[edit]

There's now Category:Alumni of Kingswood School, Bath, and it could do with some members. roundhouse 01:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Girls at Kingswood[edit]

Girls were only admitted to the main part of the school from September 1972. Initially there were eight, the Head girl (if I remember aright Sue Sergent) in the VI form and seven in the Lower VI. Girls only entered the lower part of the school in or after 1974. I will ammend the main page to read 1972 accordingly.

I think that the Prior's Court Headmaster (Mr Mountford) had his daughter attend classes at Prior's court from 1968, but she was living "at home" in the Head's flat on the premises. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kingswood at Uppingham during WWII[edit]

(Posted on both schools' talk pages) At Kingswood School there used to be a stone set into the library referring to the period when Kingswood was lodging at Uppingham School during the war. I believe that a pair of stones were exchanged, can anyone confirm or deny the existance of such a stone at Uppingham, and where it is? A photo or a transcription of either or both stones would be nice. In passing, what is the old Kingswood library used for nowadays? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

April 2007[edit]

Some good information but references need to be made inline. Could also use pictures and some work on WP:NPOV. Alumni seem fairly notable and the school is fairly old. Adam McCormick 05:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

December 2012[edit]

I'm assessing this article following a request at WP:WPSCH/A#R, as clearly a lot has changed since 2007. Firstly, given the age of the school and its impressive list of alumni, I am upping importance from Mid to High. On the quality rating, I think this article is on the high-end of C-class, although some remaining issues prevent a B-class rating.

I think the article needs to be re-organized to conform better WP:WPSCH/AG#S. As it is, some key school article sections appear to missing (campus, curriculum e.t.c.) and existing sections need expanding - the lead is too short for the article (see WP:LEAD) and the history section seems very incomplete for a school this old (books are usually good sources for history). I would suggest converting the sports section into an extra-curricular activities section and merging in information about the model UN; the organisation section should perhaps become a dedicated school houses section, and the Kingswood Theatre and eco-schools sections should all be covered under campus.

On the content, the referencing is good overall and its good see universal use of citation templates, although the sports section is missing references. Furthermore, the sports and eco-schools sections are vague and appear to be promotional, raising WP:NPOV issues. In an encyclopedia, words should be used in the way that is formally correct - ecology is the "scientific study of the relationships that living organisms have with each other and with their natural environment"; as someone who studied ecology at university, I do die a little inside when the word is misused as it is in this article! There are also some grammar issues in the article - words such as "chapel" and "boarding houses" are not, on their own, considered to be proper nouns and so should only be capitalised at the beginning of a sentence. The WP:MOS is long and tedious but is worth becoming familiar with.

Overall, I would say this article has plenty of potential. If further help or feedback is needed, feel free to drop a note on my talk page. CT Cooper · talk 14:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The original logo (prior to 10/7/18) was larger and clearer. Interactiveschools (talk · contribs) has been substituting a smaller, indistinct, logo that also repeats the school's name. I reverted this yesterday, but instead of discussion he has simply re-reverted. I am about to reset it one last time (any more could be construed as edit-warring). Would other editors please keep an eye on this. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This logo is no longer in use by the organisation (school). Uploaded version is CORRECT version - there should be no reason for this to be reverted back as incorrect information. (Interactiveschools (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC))[reply]
I have copied from Interactiveschools' talk page to here. There does appear to be a change in the way the school's moto is presented but the escutcheon and crest look to be the same. Unfortunately the achievement is to small to be clear in the updated logo, and is totally dominated by the name. What is needed is clear artwork of the modified achievement that can be placed in the infobox at a suitable scale so that it can be seen. @Interactiveschools: can you supply any? I've had a go at scraping the website but there is no very clear example. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
this is the school's official logo - the one they use across social media and as part of the school identity. I can provide a larger version with less white space but the entire crest must be used as this is the correct identity. Thanks (Interactiveschools (talk) 13:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC))[reply]
FYI, the achievement is the crest (the griffin), the escutcheon (shield) and motto which is exactly what is needed. That's the part that had shrunk so small that it couldn't be seen. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why has this changed again? The school (our client) keeps asking us to change on their behalf and it is frustrating to see this being reverted back to an out-of-date, INCORRECT crest. We do not need to scrape their site, I have the logo provided directly to me (the one that was uploaded). Is there somewhere I can upload this again and you can action - so it is not changed back again please? Interactiveschools (talk) 08:33, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The reason it changed has been explained in the edit summaries and above. Have you actually tried to view the page? The modified logo is a small red splodge with the word "KINGSWOOD" disproportionately large. This is superfluous since it comes immediately beneath the title "Kingswood School" which itself is on a page of that name. You made the changes with no explanation other than a shouted "CORRECT" above until now, over two months later. Furthermore the phrase "The school (our client)" rings an alarm bell which I address on your talk page. If you can provide evidence that the school no longer uses the crest, then perhaps removing it altogether might be a better solution. Please note that the page is not Kingswood's, it is Wikipedia's and as such content is determined by consensus amongst interested editors. Before replying here, or any further editing, I recommend that you attend to the issues raised on your talk page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest?[edit]

@Sderrick82:. Please see your talk page concerning your status on Wikipedia.

Please also read through the section "Logo" above. If the school is no longer using the coat of arms, but only an indistinct red blob over the word "KINGSWOOD", then there appears to be no point is displaying it directly underneath the title "Kingswood School". Furthermore, the coat of arms or similar should be displayed using the |logo= parameter, not the |image= parameter. The latter is for a picture of the school, see the examples on the Template:Infobox_school page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:42, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sderrick82:. It is important that you deal with the COI issue identified on your talk page and here. If you need help or advice please click here and talk to me. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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