Talk:Kingdom of Ndongo

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War with Kongo[edit]

I have altered the section on the 1566 war with Kongo. There is no evidence of a war between Kongo and Ndongo in 1566, though E. G. Ravenstein, writing a commentary in 1901 on the account of Angola written by Andrew Battell (1625)said that such an event did take place. However, a complete survey of the contemporary documentation, found in Antonio Brasio's Monumenta Missionaria Africana (1st series, 15 volumes, 1952-88) volumes 2, 3, and 4 that cover this period produces no evidence whatsoever to support this contention.

Diogo I was in any case no longer king of Kongo in 1566, since he died in 1561. 65.96.237.238 13:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've done a good job researching. However; simply because the Portuguese or BaKongo made no mention of this conflict (which was rather humiliating for the BaKongo if it did occur) that does not mean it never happened. Something must account for Kongo's loss of control over Ndongo since it did claim it in the titles of the MweneKongo at one time. I'm going to put at least the details of the event back but will leave room for speculation. Scott Free 13:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More on the War[edit]

For further discussion of the war and its place in Kongo historigraphy, see the discussion on the Kingdom of Kongo page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beepsie (talk • contribs) 02:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

More sources[edit]

Article could use some clarification and expansion (esp. w/r/t "ngola" fetish/smith culture). Some sources: 1, 2, 3, 4 (in French), 5, 6, 7, 8 ...

Of course, some of the older articles can hardly be trusted as reliable sources of the African history, but they're still useful for building the European narrative & for common pre-academic names like "Dambi Angola". — LlywelynII 14:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction[edit]

The third paragraph's ending doesn't make sense and the paragraph itself is pretty much the same as the sixth.

Green daemon (talk) 10:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What does the following mean? I am baffled by "until." "The Kingdom of Ndongo was founded by Mbundu people until a Ngola, who used their artisan, blacksmithing and agricultural skills to become powerful traders in the region."Kdammers (talk) 00:01, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Njinga[edit]

Is Njinga a variant of Nzinga? Or, is it an error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwynwas (talk • contribs) 02:53, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]