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this book is exhaustive?[edit]

"a 2004 book devoted to 19th-century rule bending in baseball—and which came close to exhaustively accounting for all contemporary reporting on various subjects" this seems like a little bit of puffery for one specific book, which is out of place in an encylopedia article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.36.169 (talk) 18:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation?[edit]

"At the start of his career, baseball rules stated that players may be substituted at any time. During one game with the White Stockings, Kelly was sitting on the bench during an opposing side's time at bat. When the batter hit a high pop foul ball toward the Chicago dugout, Kelly ran out, yelled "Kelly now catching!" and caught the ball. The batter was indeed out, and the rules were changed shortly after to limit substitutions to times when the ball is dead."

can we confirm this? Kingturtle 02:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard this story but it looks like a common enough anecdote about Kelly. [1] - [2] - [3] No Guru 04:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved page back to King Kelly[edit]

I reverted move to reflect WP:NC-BASE, player is known as King Kelly, and all reputable sources all him as King Kelly. No different than Babe Ruth, Whitey Ford, Cy Young, etc.Neonblak ^talk - 08:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. Very different from those players. I found him on a list of the 100 greatest Cubs of all time and I found him on a list of Baseballs most notorious characters. Neither mentioned King as being a name that he was using as his first name, both called him Mike Kelly. There is no doubt that he did go by King, but not until late in his career. There is only one other Mike Kelly of note, anyway, which is the reason for Wikipedia:NC-BASE in the first place. I could not find the page and created a Mike Kelly (catcher) page for this exact reason. Regardless, now they all link here. Wjmummert (KA-BOOOOM!!!!) 06:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you are saying, but people now know him as King Kelly, and the all the online reputable sources have him as such, so we have gone with this to be consistent. The sources I am referring to are Retrosheet.org, baseball-reference.com, baseballlibrary.com, ESPN.com, and MLB.com.Neonblak ^talk - 08:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]