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Celibacy issue[edit]

Quite clearly, there are some here who are ignorant of the Vinaya. All bikshus (gelong) and novices (getsul) must maintain celibacy. The only exceptions are great siddhas such as Serkong Dorje Chang who had to receive permission from the 13th Dalai Lama to do consort practice. Even in Nyingma, the bikshus do not take consorts. Only the ngakpa lamas do so. The term lama does not necessarily denote that the person is a bikshu - there are many lay lamas. Though the 15th Karmapa may had the appropriate realisation to do so, to generalise and say that only the Gelugpas keep such vows is misleading and saying the bikshu sangha in the other lineages are breaking their vows. Jmlee369 (talk) 08:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Number of Children[edit]

Different sources state different numbers of children Khakyab Dorje had. Some sources say as many as 11. It's also unclear which sources take from oral histories. I think it's best to just say "numerous" for now. Badabara (talk) 19:18, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just came across a book that states he had 14 daughters and sons! I think the subject of 15th Karmapa and his consorts and children is worthy of a book of its own. Fascinating subject. Badabara (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]