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Please add to this page to improve it! Sepiraph (talk) 16:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So... she is a he?[edit]

Is this model a transvestite or did he/she go through a sex change? If it's the former, I would say Satoh should be referred to (and categorized) as a "he"; if the latter, then the opposite. I also removed the LGBT tag, as the subject's sexual orientation does not appear to have been established. Mbinebri ^{talk ←} 13:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, the subject of this article lives and works as a female despite having been born a male. If you do a quick search for images on Google, you'll see why this was such a revelation. But back to the point at hand, this person's case clearly corresponds to the definition of transgender for which the "T" in LGBT stands. I think we should stick with the well-established definitions laid out in that article rather than making up our own arbitrary definitions about what does or does not qualify. --DAJF (talk) 14:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He has not yet received sex operation or legal gender change; therefore, he is legally male and thus should be referred to as "he". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.11.178 (talk) 20:48, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are correct in saying that the person is still legally male, but the Wikipedia guidelines at MOS:IDENTITY give the following recommendations for the wording to be used in articles about persons in this situation:

"Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to using the gendered nouns, pronouns, and possessive adjectives that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies when referring to any phase of that person's life."

I haven't come across any coverage that has used the male pronoun in English or Japanese to describe Kayo Satoh (which in case you were not aware is a female name). --DAJF (talk) 07:43, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it worth mentioning[edit]

That she is also one on the World's top street fighter players? I can provide sources. 69.132.79.61 (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's definitely worth a mention. For a large portion of USA and Japan, she's known first as a competitive fighting game player, and one of the best. And gaining note in Japan as a fighting gamer, regardless of the circumstances of your other fame, is quite an accomplishment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.118.109 (talk) 22:30, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It may be worth mentioning, but it needs to be reliably sourced - as per WP:BLP. --DAJF (talk) 00:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

She competed in EVO this year and won her first two matches and lost both of her losers' bracket matches, making her tied for 6th in her pool (73). Given that there were 91 pools, it can be extrapolated that she tied for 456th place out of 1456 competitors. Saying that she's one of the top SSFIV players in the world is stretching it a bit. Even restricting it to just C. Viper players from Japan wouldn't be enough to make her stand out that much. Still, two wins at the world's biggest SSFIV tournament is pretty respectable. She'd beat me handily.

I definitely think that it's worth a mention, as it's very notable, but she's a gaming celebrity, not a top professional. 65.102.182.22 (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It boggles my mind how just because its a good looking person that plays video games you automatically jump to the conclusion "VIDEO GAME PRO IS ALSO A MODEL, MODELS PLAY VIDEO GAMES. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS KNOWN!". Still doesn't change the fact that you aren't good looking and will never end up with a good looking person by playing games. This disregards that he isn't that good, he may be one of the top tranny players but then again I doubt many people openly fight for that title. mcnichoj (talk) 07:35, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mcnichoj, quite apart from the blatant transphobia in your comment (using "he" when she has clearly expressed a female gender identity is every bit as insulting as calling her "it", and "tranny" is a highly derogatory term), the fact remains that Kayo Satoh is involved in both modelling and gaming at a high level and if she is to have a Wikipedia article then both of those facts are relevant and should be included. I don't see why that should "boggle your mind", unless you have a personal problem with either models or gamers or both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.24.194 (talk) 12:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I also feel it should be mentioned. 108.217.45.210 (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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