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Incorrect link[edit]

The link to "Anchors Aweigh" points to the wrong Wiki article. It should point to the article about the film "Anchors Aweigh" as opposed to the song. If I knew how to fix it I would. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.186.178 (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

When one opens the article to edit, the first thing that you see is a hidden note which says "please do not add an infobox, per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Opera#Infoboxes". My issue with this is that Grayson's opera career encompasses all of one sentence in the entire article, while the rest of the article discusses her more notable film career, for which she has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame for film. I feel that this article should have an actor infobox in keeping with the primary reason Grayson is notable. Wildhartlivie (talk) 13:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes to me this makes sense. I find the infoboxes very informative to understand the notability of the particular article. I think you are correct and on should be added to the article, esp. since I don't know anything about this person so it would also be informative for me. ;)--CrohnieGal^Talk 13:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in support of an infobox. In fact, I added one on July 25, 2007 and it was removed 2 hours and 27 minutes later with an edit summary that directed me to the discussion relating to the opera project's decision to not use infoboxes. It often happens that a particular article may be of interest to more than one project. I think in the case of Grayson, she is more notable as a film performer than as an operatic performer, and this is borne out by the article which places emphasis on her film career. For example, it contains a filmography, but no listing of recorded works. Grayson's official site is summarized with the comment "A website dedicated to the life and career of the MGM Musical Star Kathryn Grayson" and goes on to describe her as one of MGM's biggest stars, while her operatic career is discussed with less emphasis. I think an actor infobox would be appropriate. Rossrs (talk) 13:56, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that she is most notable as an actor. While the WikiProject Opera infobox guideline makes sense, it doesn't appear to apply to this article. I say yes to an actor infobox. momoricks (make my day) 23:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I respect the Wikiproject consensus, it doesn't actually state that actors who happen to be opera singers shouldn't have an infobox. They're more concerned with the fact that traditional musician infoboxes don't properly cover opera singers and I totally agree with that. The two anonymous IPs who removed the infobox citied that consensus and I'm not entirely sure if that is correct reasoning. I personally think that if an opera singer is notable as an actor as well, they should get an actor infobox and this certainly seems to be the case here. I wonder if anyone has thought about creating an opera singer infobox. Pinkadelica ^{Say it...} 01:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, there has never been a discussion here that Grayson is predominantly an Opera singer, that a consensus concluded that the WP Opera project preferences is what should be followed, and in fact, nothing's ever been discussed about this article's placement. I believe we have consensus that an infobox is proper here due to what established her notability. An infobox will be added. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Natural causes is not a cause of death[edit]

Also, we do not know how she died, so it's not right to speculate either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh for pity's sake! When an 88 year old woman lays down to nap and doesn't wake up, that's about as natural as it gets. Besides, that's the only cause of death given. At some point, death is a natural part of life. Who's speculating besides you? Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously dude, what else could an 88-year-old die from if they weren't the victim of an accident or violent crime or didn't have a fatal illness? Not many people are lucky enough to reach that age, let alone live past it. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

do you have an autopsy report proving her cause of death? no. then you cannot simply declare that it was natural can you? also many people are now living past 100 and science deserves to know what happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 04:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but we rarely have an autopsy to go on. All we are able to use is what reliable sources say and we use what it says. What the source says is that she died in her sleep. There will likely not be an autopsy to quote for someone who died in her sleep at 88. Do you think she was murdered? Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Content OK - grammar and punctuation need work[edit]

There are some sentences that jar me when I read them because the author stuck some words in that don't make sense where they are. Here are a couple of them.

"However, the studio executives were not satisfied, and she went through a further six months of lessons until she made her first film appearance was in 1941's Andy Hardy's Private Secretary as the character's secretary Kathryn Land." (the word 'was' is not needed)

"Her casting in The Merry Widow led to her being cast as Queen Guinevere in 1962 in Camelot, a well regarded replacement for Julie Andrews in the Broadway production, before continuing in the role for over sixteen months in the national tour of the United States, leaving the show for health reasons." (The phrase 'a well regarded replacement' just hangs there and needs some addition wording)

"This came after a month of reconciliation after a judge dismissed their divorce suit." (Awkward structure)

The use of the word 'however' is also awkward in places. In general, the word 'however' can separate a couple of clauses, or start a sentence. In several sentences here, 'however' is preceeded by a comma where it would be best if that comma were a period and 'however' started a new sentence.

I know: picky, picky, picky. This is what I do because I paid attention in English class.

Welcome to Wikipedia. The great thing about Wikipedia is that everyone can make edits to articles. In the time it took you to write that paragraph, you could have simply made those changes to the article. With hundreds of sentences being added at times, it's easy for some grammatical errors to slip through. That's why it's important to BE BOLD and make those corrections yourself! Please also keep in mind that English may not be the first language of many editors. Happy editing! Wool Mintons (talk) 18:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect information[edit]

Kathryn Grayson isn’t wearing gloves in the Madama Butterfly scene in “The Toast of New Orleans,” so it’s not possible for her to have put brass in her gloves. In interviews she said Mario Lanza was like a brother to her. Trillian Stars (talk) 11:54, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]