Talk:Karen (slang)

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Have we gone overkill with the Meme?[edit]

The name Karen means pure and was derived from the name Katherine. The Hebrew meaning of Karen is ray, horn, and antler. In French the name can mean 'clear'. People have forgotten that the name Karen was once a name that was respected and loved by many. It used to be in the top 10 baby names from the 1940s to 1960s. When you look up what the meaning of the name Karen is you do not find pure first, you find, " A white women perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal," This is directly from this wiki itself. I personally know people with the name Karen and they have received death threats telling them that they will come and kill them. They also have worked at places where people will learn their name and make comments on it or make fun of the name. This may have started of as a funny name to use but now it is unkind and has seemed to have lost its true meaning witch was one of great meaning. Why don't we just call bad people what they are 'bad people'. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 01:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Also, the socially-sanctioned corporate abuse of this name in board games, movies, coffee shops, wrapping paper, tee shirts, dolls, etc. all telling people with this name to shut up should silence the "whataboutism" of anyone with another name that's been used in an unflattering way here or there since this name abuse has been so beyond anything else in scope in our history. At this point, it's being used to silence women by threatening to stigmatize them. Some people should be stigmatized, but for their behavior and not their name. To argue otherwise is the equivalent of saying "All ___ people don't mind my [extremely offensive] use of their identity to categorize someone since they know this isn't about THEM." It really doesn't hold up as an argument. Those with the name Karen describe feeling like society hates them and they're running around with a "kick me" sign when people behave rudely upon learning their names. It's time to put this slang to bed along with blonde jokes, "welfare queen" comments, Polish jokes, homosexual jokes, etc. and recognize that respecting identity includes respecting someone's birth name and not making it into a nasty way to refer to behavior you don't like. Anyone who thinks it's not a big deal should ask someone 5-20 named Karen and hear how their experiences have been. Shelbybaxter (talk) 06:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck trying to change society from here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wish we could as its just sad to see a name that was once respected be turned into an insult. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
These things happen. Why do you think boys aren't named "Elmer" anymore? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because it was never a good name. 47.138.92.123 (talk) 04:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says who? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says me. 65.248.13.32 (talk) 18:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Says your personal OR. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Shove your OR up your smarmy ass Bugggs. 65.248.13.32 (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC) [reply]
Elmers not a bad name. I had a neighbor named Elmer and he was great. Yes it is seen as old fashioned but it’s still very lovely. 47.160.106.19 (talk) 03:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You mean like the name "Gaylord"?
2600:4040:750C:6F00:7CA8:F9B2:B0FD:E579 (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
“It used to be in the top 10 baby names from the 1940s to 1960s”
how Ironic that baby-boomers, the worst generation, would have an abundance of Karens. 196.128.21.19 (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carolyn Bryant[edit]

Her line needs to be rephrased. I read the entire Wikipedia page for Emmett Till. As far as the information says, she did not accuse him of anything resulting in his death. She did not even tell anyone about the encounter until after his death when she was made to answer by legal authorities. Her husband found out about Emmett from other people at the store, and he got mad at her for not telling him. The FBI interrogated her as to why she did not tell anyone. The husband was responsible for Emmett's death because HE felt offended on behalf his wife who he saw as belonging to him. SHE did not. According to Wikipedia and external resources: "Historian Timothy Tyson said an investigation by civil rights activists concluded Carolyn Bryant did not initially tell her husband Roy Bryant about the encounter with Till, and that Roy was told by a person who frequented their store. Roy was reportedly angry at his wife for not telling him. Carolyn Bryant told the FBI she did not tell her husband because she feared he would assault Till." As it stands, the Karen (slang) page is inaccurate. This page says she accused him because she was offended, when the FBI and civil rights activists state it was the husband who was offended and HIS offense led to Emmett being brutally murdered. This page needs to be written more objectively. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 12:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Then add it Babysharkboss2 was here!! (Talking Head's) (Goo Goo Dolls) 16:00, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

typo: chashier[edit]

please fix if you have edit access. Hannah1981 (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers thx! Hannah1981 (talk) 02:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Race, Law, and Politics[edit]

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2024 and 10 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mriacona (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Mriacona (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What "Karen" actually means[edit]

What a pathetic load of garbage propaganda this article is. It actually has "sources" from the BBC and Insider who are left-wing and have not got a clue on what a meme is, nor any clue of what happens on the Internet, and the former of which is well-renowned for making up rubbish and telling lies. "Karen" used generally for entitled women in general. They don't need to be American, or light-skinned, or blonde or short-haired. Even the term "Daren" and "Kevin" are used for male Karens. The Internet must push back. Mikey'Da'Man, Archangel (talk) 17:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And what reliable sources do you have for this? EvergreenFir (talk) 17:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mikey, you appear to be saying above that the BBC "is well-renowned for making up rubbish and telling lies". If this were so, it would be surprising that en:Wikipedia says that, for editing purposes, the BBC "is considered generally reliable". If you can provide evidence for the BBC's renown for making up rubbish and telling lies, then please do so at WP:RSN and get agreement for your low opinion of the BBC. If you either cannot do this persuasively or can't be bothered to do so, then accept that the BBC is, with good reason, considered generally reliable. -- Hoary (talk) 23:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]