Talk:Kalpa (time)

Asankya

The links to Asankya are not useful. [Asankya] redirects to [Large numbers] but Large numbers doesn't ever mention Asankya. I'm left wondering what it is? 67.168.206.135 (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

This was resolved sometime in the past. Jroberson108 (talk) 12:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Kalpa in Vedas

It is just the term "kalpa" which is used in the Mahabharata for the first time. The time span of a kalpa is first mentioned in Rigveda 4.58.3 (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv04058.htm) similar in Yajurveda Samhita 17, 91 (941) which seems to be a mnemonic.--87.178.201.105 (talk) 07:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't literally say a kalpa, but has been interpretated to mean it, which the hymns can have many meanings. As I recall, Vaishnavism takes the numbers—four, three, two, and seven—to mean 4, 3, 2, and seven 0s, or 4,320,000,000, the length of a kalpa in human years. A reliable source is needed. Jroberson108 (talk) 12:48, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

The Present Kalpa

The present kalpa is called SVETA VARAHA KALPA and we are currently in the Vaivasvata Manvantara. Any Brahman who does his rituals would know this. The wiki write up states something else and that is incorrect. Period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.65.37.52 (talk) 07:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

This was resolved sometime in the past. Jroberson108 (talk) 12:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Kalpa Imperial

@Ejrrjs: You recently added the book Kalpa Imperial under the "In popular culture" section. I found the book on archive.org, but couldn't read it since it wasn't in English. Could you elaborate on how the term "Kalpa" is used in this book? I couldn't find anything and reviews mentioned an unnamed empire. Is it used as a name of an age? Currently, the section is a bit promotional, so explaining its usage of "Kalpa" would be ideal. Jroberson108 (talk) 08:19, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry that you couldn't read it.

Amazon has some excerpts from the English translation [1].

The work is obviously related to this entry meaning. But don't take my word for it, I'm not promoting anything (most of the text is taken from Angélica Gorodischer anyway - under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0).

In Construcción ficcional de la utopía (AdVersuS, IX, 23, diciembre 2012:41-49 ISSN 1669-7588), Rodrigo Pardo Fernández says:

"El volumen de relatos Kalpa imperial, de la argentina Angélica Gorodischer(1983) se suma a una tradición cuyo máximo exponente, en la literatura fantástica anglosajona, lo constituye Clark Ashton Smith y el continente de Zothique (1970), el cual existe después de lo que podemos considerar la historia humana tal y como la conocemos ahora. Ese mundo futuro, de muchos modos, metáfora y recreación de todos los imperios de la humanidad, se sucede por un periodo designado como kalpa, palabra sánscrita que significa eón, o en términos más o menos concretos, entre 16 y 4 mil 320 millones de años. Un imperio sin principio y sin final que se avizore se conforma como la utopía perfecta (la redundancia es voluntaria) de

los grandes imperios históricos, desde Gengis Khan hasta Felipe II, pasando por el macedonio Alejandro Magno y la Roma de los Césares.[...]

El inicio de Kalpa imperial, «Retrato del Emperador», es el comienzo de la utopía. No a partir de la nada, sino tomando como base las ruinas de un imperio olvidado, de una historia que se ha perdido (o que se ha olvidado intencionalmente, que en términos del discurso es lo mismo), un nuevo reino se levanta, expandiendo lentamente sus brazos en un crecimiento que pareciera que es infinito (otra característica de las propuestas utópicas, formuladas en un sentido atemporal) pero que, para autorregularse (en términos de la ficción, de los parámetros necesarios para poder contar cualquier historia a partir de un

inicio y en pro de de un final) formula la existencia del Sur: un espacio aparte, fuera del Imperio."

(The volume of short stories Kalpa imperial, by the Argentine Angélica Gorodischer (1983) joins a tradition whose greatest exponent, in the Anglo-Saxon fantasy literature, is Clark Ashton Smith and the continent of Zothique (1970), which exists after what we can consider the human history as we know it today. That future world, in many ways, a metaphor and recreation of all empires of humanity, occurs for a period designated as kalpa, Sanskrit word meaning aeon, or in more or less concrete terms, between 16 and 4 thousand 320 million years. An empire without beginning and without end in sight is presented as the perfect utopia (redundancy is voluntary) of the great historical empires, from Genghis Khan to Felipe II, passing by the Macedonian Alexander the Great and the Rome of the Caesars.

[...]

The start of Imperial Kalpa, "Portrait of the Emperor", is the beginning of the Utopia. Not from scratch, but based on the ruins of a forgotten empire, of a history that has been lost (or that has been forgotten intentionally, which in discourse terms is the same thing), a new kingdom rises, slowly expanding his arms in a growth that seems which is infinite (another characteristic of utopian proposals, formulated in a timeless sense) but that, in order to self-regulate (in terms of fiction, of the necessary parameters to be able to tell any story from a beginning and towards an end) formulates the existence of the South: a separate space, outside the Empire.)

I hope this is enough, let me know if further references are needed.

Regards, Ejrrjs User:Ejrrjs says What? 16:24, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Misinterpretation of yuga’s years

There is complete misinterpretation and misrepresentation about yuga’s year. You can see whole video of sadhguru jaggi about yuga cycle and it’s years which realistically fit with both Mahabharat(5000 years ago) and ramayan(7000 years ago). Yuga cycles should be like this;- Kaliyuga;- 1296 Dwaper yuga:- 2596 Tretrayuga;- 3888 Satyuga;- 5184 2605:8D80:667:FC8A:B4FA:72C8:959D:A534 (talk) 06:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Sadhguru is not considered a reliable source. See WP:RS. Jroberson108 (talk) 13:27, 17 November 2022 (UTC)