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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 00:23, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Minor adjustments

  • I made a few very minor script-suggested changes. Feel free to revert any that are objectionable.

Copyvio check

  • No concerns from the matches found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. I reviewed both of the matches above 1%.

Sources

  • Source name is missing from Monroe, Mike (September 6, 2006). "Barnett will return to Spurs' booth". p. 7C.
  • A couple of Jakle links are missing page numbers, i.e. January 5, 1995; and January 7, 1995. Is there a reason for this?
  • Sinclair filed to purchase KRRT outright in November 1999, upon the legalization of duopolies - I don't think that the page cited explicitly confirm "upon the legalization of duopolies". Maybe add an additional cittion for the previous page of the same source?
  • The enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov link looks OK, but as it's a direct link to a PDF, do you know here I can check that "Licensing and Management System" is the right website in the citation? (It looks fine, but I feel I should just confirm.)
  • I think all the sources have archives except Flaum, David (August 17, 1985). Not required for GA, but optionally you could archive this one as well.
  • Again, not required for GA, but sources are inconsistently linked, e.g. San Antonio Express-News is sometimes linked, sometimes not.
    • @BennyOnTheLoose: Most of your source concerns are explained together: I can't link to NewsBank sources with the proxy I have. And sometimes I miss a field here or there in typing the sources out. Sometimes, NewsBank does not include page numbers for articles particularly of older editions of newspapers; a few papers are just truly borked with metadata in NewsBank (The Hawk Eye in Burlington, Iowa, comes to mind, with titles like "TV Comm", "By Mike9", etc.). The Express-News articles that are linked exist outside of NewsBank. I also fixed the duopoly legalization issue. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 01:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History

  • Spot check on The commission made the assignment effective January 1982 - no issues.
  • Spot check on KRRT (for his initials) - no issues.
  • Spot check on unable to lure investors to its junk bonds even before Black Monday. - no issues.
  • Spot check on Multiple outlets reported in November 1993 that River City Broadcasting was close to buying KRRT - I usually take "Sources say" to be unnamed people with an interest, rather than "outlets". Are you confident that the source supports the statement?
    • Redid this area a bit.
  • The phrase "signed on the air" in "The station first signed on the air on November 6, 1985" seemed slightly odd to me (based in the UK), but if it's an ENGVAR or technically correct phrase then no need to change it.
  • Similarly for "station brass" - I understand it, but it seems odd.
    • These two tweaked. #2 is fine but also too floral and I get that at GAN enough. I went with "began broadcasting" for #2 even though #1 would be perfectly acceptable.
  • 1998 also brought... - my reading of MOS:NUMERAL is that a sentence shouldn't start with a year.
    • Done
  • independent stations, joint sales and shared services could, optionally, be wikilinked, as they are in the lead, without violating MOS:REPEATLINK.
    • Done (I get asked to do this at enough GANs)
  • KENS, in "KENS II" and KENS-TV both link to the same article, but I'm open to a liberal interpreation of "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers" in MOS:REPEATLINK.
  • I don't think that the duplicated link for UPN in the body is necessary.
    • Thanks. Some of that language tends to be used across a number of articles, so I'm not too surprised.

Technical information

  • The info here all seems to be supported by sources, but the citations are only against the Subchannels provided by KMYS-TV (ATSC 1.0) table. Citations could be added to the Subchannels of KMYS (ATSC 3.0) table.
    • Added one more for that table.

Infobox and lead

  • No link for the website in the infobox? (I'm assuming it's https://cw35.com/)
    • Nope. As a result of what Sinclair did in 2021, that technically belongs in the WOAI-TV infobox. These articles have an extra layer of confusing, and honestly a hatnote is merited on all of them. "CBS 14" is not KMEG, "My 40" is not WMYA-TV, and "Fox 28" is not KFXA. In 2021, after a lot of Sinclair's coordinated partners were hit with $500,000+ fines per station for bad-faith negotiations in retransmission consent, Sinclair started taking the guts of these stations—programs it owned—and putting them on subchannels of stations it owned, leaving stations like this one with no local programming whatsoever.
  • The technical information is unsourced, but I see that this is generally true with articles of this type so I'm happy to go with consensus that sources are not required for these uncontroversial facts.
    • You can also verify this by clicking on the link labeled "LMS" in the infobox.

Thanks for your work on the article, Sammi Brie. The article's coverage seems appropriate and balanced, from what I've seen in sources. The points above about prose above may be due to my lack of knowledge about terminology or American English rather than actual issues. Thanks for responding so promptly on the sourcing comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.