Talk:Joseph Arch

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Lack of a "criticism" section.

The article, like Wikipedia articles generally, simply assumes that unionisation will improve the wages and conditions of workers. A total failure to include the alternative point of view (of economics - of W.H. Hutt and so many other economists) that wages and conditions of work are determined by supply-and-demand and that that efforts to improve them by "collective bargaining" will lead to higher unemployment.2A02:C7D:B5B8:DA00:C82E:881E:47A5:4FB5 (talk) 06:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Need to disambiguate place of birth[edit]

Joseph Arch's place of birth needs disambiguating, as there are at least two Barfords in England. I could guess that it was the Norfolk one, on the basis of his later life. But this would be a guess, so I am leaving the link pointing to the dab page. -- Chris j wood 09:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No Warwickshire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.229.202 (talk) 16:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The man, not the movement[edit]

The former article read more like an account of agricultural unionisation, rather than of the man who contributed to it. It also lacked sufficient references and was somewhat incoherent because of the piecemeal way in which information was added. The new additions and restyling seek to remedy these shortcomings without, I hope, treading on too many toes. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 12:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Description[edit]

I would have thought that historically he was more important as a trade union leader than as an MP so I have changed this to "trade unionist and politician". So far as I can see there has been no discussion of this before.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:42, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted, Spinney Hill. Since the start of the article, the lead described him only as a politician although, in the earlier versions, it was mostly his TU activity that was described. Sweetpool50 (talk) 10:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]