Talk:Josef Ng

Josef Ng is currently a Media and drama good article nominee. Nominated by KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 at 20:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Short description: Singaporean gallerist and performance artist

A fact from Josef Ng appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Singaporean performance artist Josef Ng was fined S$1,000 for partially exposing his buttocks and snipping his pubic hair during a public performance?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 14:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Singaporean performance artist Josef Ng was fined S$1,000 for partially exposing his buttocks and snipping his pubic hair during a public performance? Source: Various
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bird Thomas Baldwin

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 15:37, 20 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Josef Ng; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Journal article contains the buttocks/pubic hair information, AGF on the dollar amount in an offline book source. No other textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Josef Ng/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kingoflettuce (talk · contribs) 20:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 09:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A rather short article.

CE suggestions:

"Around 02:00 on 1 January 1994" – I guess this must be 24 hour time. Would add that it is local time.

Done KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"He was fined S$1,000." – add USD value.

Not sure this value-adds the article and might border on OR (not mentioned in source either). KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"who were seated 10 to 15 metres away" – would add conversion to feet using Template:Convert

Done KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Ng's prosecution was negatively received by members of the local performing arts community." – Are there others' views of the performance? You only seem to highlight Tommy Koh.

Tommy's comment was more of a qualification of the generally negative reception ("no one from NAC witnessed Josef Ng's performance") and I didn't think it'd be necessary to give a laundry list of the negative opinions especially from non-notables. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anything else known about Josef Ng before Brother Cane? Like family and so on? Seems this article was created largely because of his performance. It might not actually meet WP:CRIME in terms of notability since this is a one-off event and could actually be under an article Brother Kane or 5th Passage.

Otherwise, the article is sufficiently well-cited. Earwig doesn't show immediate issues beyond a few direct quotations. But I'm unsure about the notability of this article given it's rather short and focussed more on the Brother Kane incident. Putting on hold.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey ZKang, appreciate the review. I believe I really plumbed the depths of the internet to find all publicly-available scrabs of info I could get on Josef but I don't think too much of his personal life is known outside of the Brother Cane incident. Still there is sizeable coverage of his post-Brother Cane career and I'm confident this passes the GNG barrier (though it's worth noting that notability technically isn't a GA criteria...). Made some of your proposed changes. Thanks! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 15:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]