Talk:Jorge González (wrestler)

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Regarding his height/weight[edit]

Jorge Gonzalez was listed as 7'6 325lbs by the Atlanta Hawks. NBA listed heights are in shoes and rounded up, meaning Gonzalez's real height is more like 7'4. He was billed as 460lbs by the WWF and wasn't that much bigger than when he played basketball, so they would have been adding 100lbs to his weight.

GG height was 7'4".(Halbared 20:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]

gonzales was more than 325lb, the Associated Press reported him as 403lb back in 1988 and i think a little more reliable than some website which would have been set up ten years later. At 325lb and 7'6 he would have looked like a string bean, here is a link to the newspaper article, can someone link it to the main page if possible http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2s6m55l&s=2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.116.121 (talk) 01:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If we are trying to find exact stature...[edit]

Then we should question all listed heights of NBA players, and otherwise tall athletes. It is known that heights of NBA players are always given in shoes. Thus Yao Ming's NBA listed 7ft6, is likely 7 ft 5 without shoes.

Similarly, Gonzales's 7ft7 was probably including atleast an inch of his shoes...

AKA Robert Wadlow's 8'11 was probably closer to 8'9 or 8'10 without shoes.

Wadlow was no athlete, and he was measured by Dr. Cyril MacBryde and Dr. C. M. Charles, Associate Professor of Anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine – I find it quite unlikely he had his shoes on.--Anshelm '77 19:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gonzales was billed as 8ft tall. And he certainly looked it. Comparing Gonza to Tatanka in a 1993 match, I'd say he'd have 4-5 inches on Great Khali who is a legit 7' w/o shoes.

Gonzales:

  • Ht. c.7'5 (w/o shoes)
  • Wt. c.330-360 lbs
  • Size 22 shoe

--Gonzales seemed 8ft tall especially because he always stood next to his manager Harvey Wippleman who is a modest 5'7. (Similar to how Great Khali always stands next to Daivari who is 5'9) Jorge is a legit 7'4-7'5 and Guinness World Book 2000 lists him as the tallest Professional wrestler at '7'6 and 430 lbs'. But I kinda doubt He really weighed much over 400 lbs in his career. The Atlanta Hawks said he was too slow for the fast pace of the NBA and had a tough time keeping a low weight below 325 lb as it's mentioned above. Gonzales may have been like 380 or 400 lb by the early or mid 90's, but I don't think he ever balooned to 460 lbs, cause he just seems too slender for that. (For comparison, Big Show is 493, and Gonzales looked like 100 lbs lighter than Show is). --70.59.155.91 20:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jorge has 6 inches on TBS though, that could make him the same weight and slimmer.(Halbared 20:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

When he wrestled in Japan he was 233cm and 190kg which is around 7'8" and 420 pounds

Regarding his life[edit]

Is he married? Does he have any kids? Does he live with anybody at all? I'd like to know. Son of Kong

Jorge is said to be living in a care center at his home town struggling with diabetes due to his acromegalic growth. He's 40 yrs old and doesn't have any children I'm aware of.

Thanks. Son of Kong

Moveset?[edit]

Hey, would someone by any chance know what wrestling moves he did when he was in the ring?

Very few. He could barely walk as I remember. It was the same ole stuff that big big big man do, punches, stomps kicks etc.Halbared 09:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Did he have any throws or submission moves? GunFactor007 06:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

In the WWF his submission move was "The Claw", he had it on Macho Man for basically the whole of their match, his giant hand totally engulfing Macho's entire head.

Article misnaming?[edit]

Why is this at "Jorge Gonzales" when the spelling throughout the article is "Jorge Gonzalez"? Gene Nygaard 02:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article does seem to be misnamed. The WWF was inconsistent with the spelling of his name, so confusion is understandable. The results from the 1988 NBA Draft would seem much more reliable, and he is listed there as Jorge Gonzalez. I'm new to Wikipedia, though, so I have no idea how to rename an entire article.

So new, in fact, that I forgot to sign my name. GaryColemanFan 16:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

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Discussion about page move (cut and pasted from WT:PW)[edit]

The article on this wrestler, who competed as Giant Gonzalez (or Giant Gonzales, depending on who you believe) and El Gigante, skips back and forth between Gonzáles, Gonzales, González, and Gonzalez. Since there is so much confusion with his name, I think we should stick to the spelling used by the most reliable sources. As he was also drafted into the NBA, he was the subject of many stories by the New York Times, Sports Illustrated, etc. They refer to him as Gonzalez. I propose that the article be moved to "Jorge González (wrestler)" or "Jorge Gonzalez (wrestler)". Yes, it does involve adding a quantifier, but I think it's better than spelling the name incorrectly. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, the article should be spelled right...no matter if it creates the need for a quantifier. Nikki311 03:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Jorge González (wrestler) SAVIOR_SELF.777 21:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the article per this discussion. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest in connection with the death of wippleman[edit]

Does anybody know if this happened? i've just deleted the line saying that gonzalez devoured wippleman, because a google search revealed nothing and something like that would have generated some hits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howlingmadhowie (talk • contribs) 21:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I read diabetes and complications related to his size.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 02:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He's talking about the death of Harvey Wippleman (which I'm not even sure happened), Gonzalez old manager in WWF, not Gonzalez himslef. Can't find anything abotu Wippleman's death; probably just vandalism. 214.3.138.234 (talk) 12:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Steve[reply]

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Orphaned references in Jorge González (wrestler)[edit]

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  • From Scott Hall: Shields, Brian; Sullivan, Kevin (2009). WWE Encyclopedia. Dorling Kindersley. p. 244. ISBN 978-0-7566-4190-0.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Poor wording in "Early Years"[edit]

In the "Early years" section it says "which is why he stood at nearly 8 feet." Seems a bit unencyclopedic, especially as at 7' 6" is he hardly nearly 8ft. Will be bold and change it. 109.150.29.212 (talk) 07:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WWF ring name: Gonzalez vs. Gonzales[edit]

Looking through videos of his WWF tenure, I see that the Gonzalez spelling is much more common. It was spelled this way on the video wall as he entered the ring. It was spelled this way in the promotional images leading up to his WrestleMania IX and SummerSlam 1993 matches. His name is not shown on screen prior to either of these matches, but it is shown on screen (as Gonzalez) before his match against Virgil on Superstars in 1994. It is shown on screen as Gonzales prior to his "handicap match", but it is Gonzalez when promoting his appearance on the battle royal on Raw in fall 1993. WWE uses the Gonzales spelling on their website, but this appears to be an error, as the vast majority of uses during his career were Gonzalez. I have edited the article to reflect this. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Found PD-AR Images of Gonzalez. Should we move or delete the fair use Prof Wrestling career photo?[edit]

Hello, I just found some images from "El Gráfico" which by Public Domain Laws are Expired in Argentina, the only catch is that all of them are from his Basketball career, save for one where he is on his street clothes. I was wondering if the image during his wrestling career as "El Gigante" should be moved or be deleted. Thanks!

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gigante_Jorge_Gonzalez_con_Leon_Najundel.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jorge_Gonzalez_and_Fernando_Borcel.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jorge_Gonzalez_Sudamericano_1989.jpg Hyperba21 (talk) 21:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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