Talk:John Thomas and Lady Jane

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Euphemisms[edit]

I don't know where you would find a source for this, but 'John Thomas and Lady Jane' are definitely standard, UK childish euphemisms for penis and vagina … it's very unlikely that Lawrence did not know this. Pincrete (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The terms are not used in this version of the book but the meanings are made obvious in the 1928 published version of Lady Chatterley's Lover:

1. Tha ma’es nowt o’ me, John Thomas. Art boss? of me? Eh well, tha‘rt more cocky than me, an’ tha says less. John Thomas! Dost want her? Dost want my Lady Jane? Tha’s dipped me in again, tha hast. Ay, an’ tha comes up smilin’.—Ax ‘er then! Ax Lady Jane! Say: Lift up your heads o’ ye gates, that the king of glory may come in. Ay, th’ cheek on thee! Cunt, that’s what tha’rt after. Tell Lady Jane tha wants cunt. John Thomas, an’ th’ cunt o’ Lady Jane!—”

2. John Thomas says good night to Lady Jane, a little droopingly, but with a hopeful heart.

(Sorry, no pages references, taken from a digital edition. The second quote is the last sentence of the book.)

Agbneill (talk) 14:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Publication Date?[edit]

This book was not published in 1927 but written in 1927.

1. According to the Publisher's Note in the Penguin edition, John Thomas and Lady Jane was first published in English in 1972, in Italian in 1954.

2. This version originally published in an Italian translation in 'Le Tre "Lady Chatterley"'. Milano: Mondadori, 1954. - English text originally published: London: Heinemann, 1972. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbneill (talk • contribs) 14:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for research into various editions[edit]

the relationship between the various editions is rather complex. Anyone doing a serious study should refer to:

http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/literature/literary-texts/first-and-second-lady-chatterley-novels?format=PB&isbn=9780521007153#dbXZoK6liC7l4fgG.97

There is much information about the publishing history in the excerpt of the front matter at:

http://assets.cambridge.org/97805214/71169/frontmatter/9780521471169_frontmatter.pdf

154.73.217.18 (talk) 06:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In conclusion[edit]

Perhaps a seasoned wiki editor can take this information and include it in a paragraph in the main Lady Chatterley wiki page and kill this page. 154.73.217.18 (talk) 06:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]