Talk:John Goodwyn Barmby

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i am removing the last sentence "he also prefered the company of men" it is uncited and unenyclopedic, I googled for a citation but found none.89.213.1.85 (talk)

Reference 2 is Misleading[edit]

Reference 2 (as of writing this) references EtymOnline as the source for Barmby learning "communisme" and/or "communiste" from François-Noël Babeuf. While according to the dictionary he'd need to've translated it from French, neither its present entry nor any of the Wayback Machine's snapshots of it reference Babeuf or his supporters. Seeing as it'd be a noteworthy part of the word's origin, an idea of the theorist and system of theories that the word was first meant for; it's weird to remove unless it was hard for EtymOnline's author to find supporting sources for the source they used. I believe the reference's only meant for Barmby being the first to use English "communism".

But I also found a supporting source for the Babeuf part. Reference 2's wrong about the second half of the sentence, so I'll move it to the first half where it applies (note that referencing's fine after most punctuation, not just periods). In its place after the sentence, I'll add a reference to Raymond Williams's 1983-published revised edition of Keywords: A Vocabulary of Culture and Society as a Wayback Machine archive of Amazon hosting it through its domain s3.amazonaws.com at http://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-attachments/1385668/2a0d6d0b045feef2adb6ae76ec9a2c92.pdf?1509502303 . Similarweb found the website to be safe at https://www.similarweb.com/website/s3.amazonaws.com/ . For real link skeptics, here's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarweb . Raymond Williams was an influential cultural theorist with his own article in the Gale Contextual Encyclopedia of World Literature, where Keywords is mentioned as one of his major works. I'll use the Wayback Machine's 2020 snapshot; and I just saved a snapshot on December 26 UTC today, but it could take minutes to days to show as a result. --Ντόναλντ (talk) 17:00, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]