Talk:John Elliott Cairnes

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plagiarized?[edit]

This article reads like it was lifted directly from an old bio maybe the DNB with no citation. Cairnes, in any case, is no classical economist. He's opposed to the idea of providence or that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the French idea of interest, hence of both free markets and republicanism, likening Bastiat to the despised Rousseau and Paine, and all those who speak of natural rights, which is actually quite opposed to interest, and misses the entire point of static theory or long-run economic analysis, much as George III, Paley. In other words he, like others of his school, past and future, is what he decries, a mercantilist, and a progressive. Mercantilists, as well as assuming virtue, cannot resolve labor value and exchange value into one idea. This is Cairnes' problem, but which he imputes to Bastiat. Bastiat uses the word service, or at least his English translator does, in a feudal sense, much as Smith in TMS, and it is an exchange as much as labor situation. It means doing what the other wants. What Bastiat and all other republicans want to say is that an economy is most efficient when the demands of all AND the means of all are reconciled, which is what Cairnes wants, but refuses to let providence see to. He considers it both Communism, AND illiberal, justifying, for instance, Irish land tenure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.26.8 (talk) 06:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 December 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. If reintroducing this request in the future, please provide evidence of the relative prevalence of different forms of the name in reliable sources (WP:COMMONNAME). Dekimasuよ! 00:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

John Elliott Cairnes → J. E. Cairnes – Over redirect.
The School of Business & Economics uses that form.
This form is used for others, such as W. B. Yeats, R. B. Braithwaite, A. J. Ayer, G. E. Moore, A. C. Grayling, W. W. Bartley III. 2001:BB6:A2B:5858:C437:8098:25F4:64ED (talk) 04:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@2001:BB6:A2B:5858:C437:8098:25F4:64ED: Not writing forenames in full, may be The School of Business & Economics's rule, but is it Wikipedia's rule? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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