Talk:Jean Genet

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Visit to refugee camps[edit]

  • Does anyone know the source for the following excerpt from the article?
In 1970 the Black Panthers invited him to the USA where he stayed for three months, giving lectures, attending the trial of their leader and publishing articles in their journals. Later the same year he spent six months in Palestine, meeting Yasser Arafat, who encouraged him to help the Palestinians. Profoundly moved by his experiences in Jordan and the USA, Genet wrote ...

My question is the reference to "Palestine"; given what was going on in 1970, it seems very unlikely that Yasser Arafat could have met anyone in "Palestine" at that time, and the following sentence refers to Genet's experience in "Jordan." It would be helpful if anyone could clear up the ambiguity about where Genet traveled in that year. Russ Blau (talk) 21:35, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

I seem to recall from the Foucault biography that 1970 was the year Foucault, Satre, and Genet campaigned together against anti-Algerian police brutality and that Genet was said to have spent time in Palestinian refugee camps in that year. I don't know about time spent with Arafat, but he was a fairly busy man that year. I'll try to chase the cite. Buffyg 09:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Sorry - yes, that was me being thick. For the record I quote exerpts from Edmund White's chronology - page xxix - xxx from Genet (London: Chatto + Windus, 1993): 1970: Feb 25 - All of the leaders of the Black Panther movement are in jail. Two of their representatives solicit Genet's support and he proposes to go immediately to America. He is [...] denied a visa for the United States and instead travels to Canada on March 1. He crosses the Canadian-American border illegally. For two months, he travels across the USA, accompanied by Black Panthers, speaking in their favour in front of university audiences as well as the press. May 1- He makes his most important speech in front of 25,000 people in New Haven. His speeches are published in the house organ (whatever that is?) of the Black Panther Party and collected in two small brochures [...] Called to present himself to immigration authorities, he leaves the USA hastily. May 7 - After a brief stay in Canada, he returns to Paris [various details of activities re George Jackson and Angela Davis] October 20 - After closely following the events in Jordan known as 'Black September', he accepts an invitation to travel to the Middle East to visit the Palestine refugee camps. He intends to spend one week there but ends up staying several months and will return four times over the next two years. November - In the camp of Wahdate, near Amman, he secretly meets Yasser Arafat to whom he promises his testimony on the Palestinian tragedy. Krits 12th June.

From his vists to the refugee camps after 'Black September', he also wrote text accompanying a French photoessay. I don't know whether this was incidental to the trip or whether it was what got him to Jordan. I believe the essay is available in English translation as "The Palestinians" in The Declared Enemy. I'll check the cite. Buffyg 30 June 2005 16:22 (UTC)

Can you fix all the broken links???[edit]

For easier reference, it would really help!!

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Books banned question[edit]

1. Swem Library [1] indicates that the following Genet books were banned: * Our Lady of the Flowers (1964) * A Thief’s Journal (1954) Nb: In 1956, Genet was convicted of pornography (France) for having published a poem called "The Galley" and the novel "Querelle." Twang 08:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2. Reference placed today; thanks to NYPL. I removed the specific date 1951 since I couldn't locate substantiating facts. Like its practitioners, "banning" is slippery; the relevant passage from de Grazia reads: "In 1946 or 47, Doubleday gave Genet money to publish his books but when they read Our Lady of Flowers they said, 'Keep your money we can't possibly publish your books.'"

Censorship at least pretends to work in the light for the light; mind control prefers to skulk in the dark. "If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." — Phil Dick

Twang 00:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

–– The question of censorship is even more clouded, or complicated, in the case of Genet b/c some of his books are bowdlerized in their English editions--a process to which G. himself seems to have contributed, acc. to Edmund White in his biography, in return for getting the book published in English. I mention it also b/c this situation has never been addressed, and it's not widely known: our English Lady of the Flowers is edited for content, still bears the marks of censorship of a kind--even if the author approved of the changes--and a more faithful translation is long overdue. helio 14:02, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Prisoner of Love[edit]

Not a novel in a different tone than his earlier works, but - ostensibly at least - a book-length piece of journalism. Would like to compare it with New Journalism, but don't have a cite for that. KD Tries Again 19:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)KD[reply]

Jean Genie[edit]

Is it worth putting that the 'Jean Genie' of the David Bowie song is named after Jean Genet?Vanityjunkie 15:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a page for 'Jean Genie' that links to Genet's page...Though, it might be a good idea to have a pop-culture reference section or something, it could also make note of the various film adaptations of Genet's work. WorldsAngriestDog (talk) 05:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sartre's Saint Genet: Published anonymously?[edit]

The article currently states that Sartre's Saint Genet was published anonymously as the first volume of Genet's Oeuvres Complètes. I don't think this is the case - if it is, there should be a reference cited.Jeremysabol (talk) 00:38, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Categories?[edit]

Should this literary figure be listed under categories Gay Male Prostitutes and French Prostitutes? Those are not categories that I usually associate with Jean Genet, but certainly his autobiographies indicate that he was a prostitute in the 1940s.

Are those categories intended to apply to people who passed away 35 years ago? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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