Talk:Jason Wilkes (musician)

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General discussion[edit]

Hey, I have no idea how stuff works on Wikipedia, a better, more user-friendly interface would really do good to Wikipedia. Anyway, Walter, I would just like to ask where I can submit citations like "private chats", because Jason Wilkes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Wilkes_(musician)) told me a lot of facts in private chat that I spent a lot of time adding to the page, and you just removed it saying that I haven't cited sources. So, I would very much like to undo your changes and cite sources, but how can I cite private chats? Do I take a screenshot, upload it on an image hosting site and put that link in the citation box, or is there another answer to that?

Also, the instruments that I put in his "notable instruments" section in the infobox weren't simply brands. He used the "2012 Fender Road Worn 50's Precision Bass" while playing for one of the bands, Disciple, which is mentioned on his page, and he bought the "Takamine EAN10CX" in 2004, wrote a lot of songs on it, performed a lot of live shows, made a lot of YouTube videos with it, and 99% of the songs on Disciple's album "Attack" were written with the help of that guitar.

So, would you please tell me how can I go about making the necessary changes without violating any of Wikipedia's rules and regulations? I'm not really optimized to Wikipedia editing, I am much better with simple, user-friendly sites, so I do apologize if I've inadvertently caused any inconvenience.

Private discussions are not reliable sources and so can't be added. If you check the documentation for {{Infobox musical artist}} you will see what the notable_instruments parameter is for: "Particularly noteworthy models or custom musical instruments with which the artist is strongly associated (e.g. Jimi Hendrix's Fender Stratocaster and Gibson Flying V guitars or Tori Amos's Bösendorfer piano." If you assume that this applies in this case, feel free to add it back in. In other words, if you think a reader would assume that the "Takamine EAN10CX" is immediately associated with Wilkes, add it back. If not, don't. It's not just for instruments that the subject has used, it's for deep associations, and this association must be referenced in the article. Reliable sources should be talking about the instrument and its association with the subject. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am pretty sure that the two instruments I mentioned before are very well associated with Wilkes. Although they aren't custom made by root standards, but he did change a lot of the parts of the 2012 Fender Road Worn 50's Precision Bass while playing for Disciple, so that may or may not qualify as a custom made instrument, rather a modified instrument. Also, the Takamine EAN10CX isn't custom made, but sure as hell looks unique after over a decade of usage. Wilkes used it for over a decade, causing the finish to come off, and causing another hole beside the soundhole, causing the guitar to look kind of damaged, albeit in a good way. I even have an image of the Takamine EAN10CX which Wilkes personally sent me. I would like to add that to the page, but I am not sure if there's a page that would help me clarify whether that image would be qualified to remain uploaded and embedded in this article. Would you please help me with that part? Again, I'm new to Wikipedia, and very much new to the music project, so I will definitely require a lot of guidance while editing parts similar to this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriswaggoner (talk • contribs) 11:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]