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Is the Subway story true?

This man is a criminal and a liar. Do we still believe the story about losing weight at subway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.154.235 (talk) 23:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Soemone just deleted what I wrote above. I'm not trying to make this a forum. I'm trying to make the article better. It's just that the article writes his losing weight by eating Subway story as if it's all true. Is there actually any proof that it is? Maybe it could just be better written as a claim, not absolute truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.154.235 (talk) 00:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not stating it as "absolute truth". This article says his weight loss was 'attributed' to Subway, which is indisputable. Further mention outside the lead is also suitably qualified. Marteau (talk) 11:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Scot

I could not find direction toward a reference supporting 'Scot' being Jared's middle name so I have fact-tagged it. Can someone locate a reference that supports this if it is true? Ranze (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

  • @Ranze: The federal BOP lists him as "Jared S Fogle" WhisperToMe (talk) 11:03, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
    • That hints at correctness, but for all I know it's Smithers so we should probably still find a source. Ranze (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

new information

Since the article is indefinitely protected .... can someone please add the latest information as to how Fogle was secretly recorded for 4 years before he was nabbed. Here is the reference: http://myfox8.com/2015/10/31/jared-fogles-alleged-disturbing-request-to-mom-of-young-kids/ 96.41.32.39 (talk) 03:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I see the article mentions a 1.4 million dollar fine, being $100,000 for each 'victim'. But it does not mention the extent of the victim's damages, what crime was perpetrated upon their person, & etc. If a fellow citizen is being put away for a decade plus, we as fellow citizens have a right to know the crime. I request more detail on the 14. (...) There are other issues with this article. How did it come to be that the psychiatrist's diagnosis has been made public information? Was it revealed at trial? [For there is such a thing as patient-Doctor confidentiality.] Further, giving his prison number is not proper. (This is again private, and completely unnecessary.) (John G. Lewis (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2015 (UTC))

1. They were minors that he had sex with.
2. The psychiatrist was a defense witness. They specifically asked her to testify on Jared's behalf.
3. The inmate number is public information. Doesn't seem worth mentioning outside an infobox, but whatever.
-- 68.144.96.231 (talk) 19:32, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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Raised in a Jewish home

So is he Jewish or not? Why is anyone afraid to say, forthrightly, that he is or is not Jewish?174.26.88.112 (talk) 15:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)John Paul Parks (talk) 15:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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Also the following quote needs an updated citation because the link does not work: "She recorded him making several remarks about having sex with underage girls and asking her to install a webcam in her children's rooms so he could watch them" Sorry for the repeat posts. I'm new here. Yokin707 (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Prison attack

I wonder if the attack on Jared Fogle should be mentioned in the article:

WhisperToMe (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Seems to me there should be something on it in the article. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 15:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Although I admit I found reading about Fogel getting beaten, satisfying, I don't think it's encyclopedic. People get into fights all the time in prison... unless there is something more to it, this is just prurient gossip. Marteau (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
There's editorials talking about the Fogle case that argue that what happened was not just
Wait to see if there's additional coverage
WhisperToMe (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Nigg was moved to Federal Transfer Center, Oklahoma City:

WhisperToMe (talk) 01:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Appeal info doubled.

Hi,
probably no big deal, but not top quality writing: the info on the appeal in the final section is already given a few paragraphs above.
T88.89.219.147 (talk) 00:10, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

repeating sentence

Why is " Fogel stated he would pay "big money" if she could procure 14-year-old children, specifically stating that he "craved" underage Asian girls. " repeated in the legal section ? Kap 7 (talk) 13:59, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

House arrest

This isn't true and should be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.19.249.209 (talk) 19:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. http://www.snopes.com/jared-fogle-released-due-to-overcrowding/ Marteau (talk) 22:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2016

Supsequent appeal portion is a near complete copy of the final paragraph of the Plea Agreement portion 65.130.208.60 (talk) 01:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Specify specifically what you would like me to change; I'm not sure whether you want me to remove anything from the article or rephrase. st170etalk 15:55, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

I took care of it.Dkspartan1835 (talk) 06:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Another inmate attack?

Where was the first? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.251.72.227 (talk) 05:24, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

It means he is an inmate, and the person who attacked him is another inmate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.58.87 (talk) 14:44, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Jared Scott Fogle

This document from Washington Township Schools Foundation also gives his name as Jared Scott Fogle: http://www.msdwt.k12.in.us/wtsf/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Annual-Report-2006-2007.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6lNWe6RYD - p. 10/44 WhisperToMe (talk) 16:01, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

History of pornography

Back in 2007, this edit was added, disussed on this talk page, and then removed. All things considered, it may well be worth bringing back in some form. Rklawton (talk) 20:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Current location is FCI Englewood not FCI Safford

Today, I visited the U.S. Bureau of Prisons website and looked up Jared Fogle on the inmate locator. His current location is still FCI- Englewood in Colorado, not FCI- Safford in Arizona.

U.S. Bureau of Prisons - inmate locator

Random31908 (talk) 16:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2018

First paragraph of "Early Life", third sentance. "became a Bar Mitzvah" to "had a Bar Mitzvah" Samhachem (talk) 16:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

 Not done as it is correct - as stated at Bar and Bat Mitzvah
"According to Jewish law, when Jewish boys become 13 years old, they become accountable for their actions and become a bar mitzvah." {my bold}
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Remove mention of sovereign citizen

I fail to see enough reliable sources to support the claim LordFluffington454 (talk) 17:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

This [1] is a perfectly reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 17:20, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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  • "wear a wiretap" should be changed to "wear a recording device" (wiretap pertains to phone conversations, and referring to a recording device as a "wire" is slang that does not fit wikipedia's tone) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4901:34CE:A01C:9EF:CD6D:5770 (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
  • In the section "Filmography", it incorrectly says that Jared had his cameo for the TV show Community in the 13th episode of the 5th season, "Basic Sandwhich", He was in fact in the 12th Episode, labeled "Basic Story" RighteousAlex (talk) 10:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2020

In the section titled Filmography, under the show Community, change "Basic Sandwich" to "Basic Story" Axilourous (talk) 04:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: "Basic Story" is the name of part 1; this is part 2 and the name is correct according to its article. Elizium23 (talk) 04:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

"He became a bar mitzvah"

First section describes him becoming a bar mitzvah. Now, I'm not Jewish, but I think this sounds a bit off. 121.6.253.182 (talk) 04:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

"Bar mitzvah" can also refer to a boy who underwent the ceremony WhisperToMe (talk) 16:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit error

Jared Scott Fogle[3] (/ˈfoʊɡəl/; born August 23, 1977)[1] is an American former spokesman for Subway restaurants and convicted sex offender. This should be "Jared Scott Fogle was an American former spokesman from Subway restaurants and a convicted sex offender. Please change this because I do not have the permissions to do so. RickyLol (talk) 03:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. He's not dead. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 03:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeah sorry for the confusion, what I mean to say was "Jared Scott Fogle is an former American spokesman for Subway restaurants and convicted sex offender." Reading it at first sounded weird because of the wording choice. I apologize for the confusion. RickyLol (talk) 05:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Moving "former" before "American" makes Fogle not American anymore, which is not the case. The wording sounds off, but if you think about it, it isn't. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Supervised release

This article mentions "supervised release" (parole), but doesn't tell the conditions of his parole. What are they? (Also, did Jared ever get AIDS? I heard that he did and wanted to give AIDS to children. After searching a bit I am pretty sure that Fogle never got AIDS.) --User123o987name (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

AIDS: You may be thinking of a South Park episode entitled 'Jared Has Aides' where pre-scandal Jared was thanking his health and diet aides, but the crowd thought he was talking about HIV and turned hostile. Bkatcher (talk) 01:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Why was the lead sentence changed?

@Bluerules: Why did you you remove "...and convicted sex offender" from the opening sentence? The conviction is the defining moment of this man's life. And it's common practice to include something like that in the first sentence. For example, O.J. Simpson was much more famous for football than Fogle was for Subway commercials, and his page starts with "...and convicted felon." My first inclination was to just add it back, but I felt I should first ask your reasoning and, perhaps, seek consensus from a vet like Ganbaruby (talk · contribs). Please note, my intention is not to be accusatory. I just think that this is a pretty important edit for the page. Thank you. ~~Mattevt | Hit me up • edits 03:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

"Convicted sex offender" is not an occupation and it's a redundant reference when his conviction is discussed by the third sentence. If his conviction was buried in the lede, I would understand wanting it referenced higher - the previous revision didn't mention his arrest until the third paragraph. But when I edited the lede, I made certain to move it up to the first paragraph to highlight its severity - and severity is made more clear by having it as the last sentence. It's the last thing that the reader sees from the opening paragraph.
In respect to "common practice" and the O.J. Simpson article, that falls under WP:OTHERSTUFF. We can't use other articles to decide what belongs and what doesn't because too many different editors write them. I don't agree with the "convicted felon" reference to Simpson, but I didn't write it. Bluerules (talk) 03:56, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Fair enough, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. ~~Mattevt | Hit me up • edits 04:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Uni

What did he study and graduate in? Maikel (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Removal of hyperlink

"Sexual disorders" in the legal history section links to "Sexual dysfunction" which is irrelevant to the current article. Sexy scientist (talk) 13:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

shouldnt he be in the bisexual men category?

even if he's a predator he's still part of the lgbt community --2600:6C64:737F:9113:B089:CB3E:2864:1F29 (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

No, if he were bisexual, he'd be interested in adult men, which he's never publicly shown interest in. Attraction to children is not part of the LGBTQ umbrella. Bkatcher (talk) 14:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

That is correct,pedophilia is totally separate from sexual orientation

That is correct,pedophilia is totally separate from sexual orientation Coastda1952 (talk) 06:04, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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