Talk:Janet Stewart, Lady Fleming

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Peerage.com[edit]

This is what the Peerage.com states. If you are going to use it please can we be more specific? On this site there is no mention of her having an illegitimate son with Henry II of France. Also on this site her mother's name is Isabella Stewart.

correction - <ref> Scots PEERAGE VOL.IX P.2 corrects error in VOL 1 P.22 'for Isabella read Agnes' So Wiki text correct ~https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Janet_Stewart,_Lady_Fleming&action=edit&section=1 Restalrig (talk)

correction - <ref> Scots Peerage vol.1 pp.22,23 - gives date and reference for Janet's illegitmate son by Henry II - Again the wiki page is correct. I suggest a more reliable source (such as the Scots Peerage, with primary sources always given) is checked before commenting on article. It's on the web.Restalrig (talk) 15:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Janet Stewart was the daughter of James IV Stewart, King of Scotland and AgnesStewart.1 She married Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming.1 She died between 1560 and 1563.1 Janet Stewart was also known as Jean Stuart. She was also known as Joan Stewart.1,2 Child of Janet Stewart and Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming: Margaret Fleming+2 d. a 15 Aug 1584
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1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 240. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.
2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 314. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. -- Lady Meg (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong portrait[edit]

I doubt the portrait's subject is this Janet Stewart (died 1562), who was dead before the painter George Jamesone (born c. 1587) was even born. It is probably a different "Lady Janet Stewart."

Yeah and it looks like man. 47.187.221.221 (talk) 00:47, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This portrait was sold on 24 May 2007 through Lyon & Turnbull in Edinburgh, Scotland. The auction house almost certainly has specialists to determine its legitimacy as they would otherwise be held liable for false advertisement. You can presumably find this portrait in the 1974 biography The Life and Art of George Jamesone by Duncan Thomson, published through the reputable Clarendon Press (Oxford University Press), since this book is cited in the source's description of the painting. – Conservatrix (talk) 01:25, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From p. 103 of Thomson's The Life and Art of George Jamesone (1974), Google Books snippet view: "Lady Janet Stewart Canvas: 34X 29 in. (Plate 86). Inscribed on painted oval: DOMIN[A] IONETA STVART FILIA WILLIELMI DOMINI LORNE EIVS SPONSA ANNO DOM M CD XL. The style of costume is indeterminate. She wears a yellow coif with a criss-cross pattern; behind this is a loose dark hood ..." This seems to support the theory that the portrait subject is a different Lady Janet Stewart, a daughter of a William, Lord Lorne. Evangelista (talk) 04:59, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]