Talk:Jan Jesenius

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Sorry, he was Hungarian. See this: http://www.magyarszemle.hu/szamok/2007/6/A_szlovak_magyar_vitak_hattere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.117.119 (talk) 08:57, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First public autopsy?[edit]

Probably not. The first seems to have been in Brno in 1594 according to municipal records there. See Hirt, M. The first public autopsy in the region which is now Czechoslovakia?. Cesk Patol 28(3):186-189, 1992. Cited in PubMed.) I removed the assertion. Myron (talk) 23:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

House of Jesenský[edit]

Jesenský is the correct form of the family name for Slovak person. It is House of Jesenský, Jesenský is correct, no doubt about it, only article has name "Jeszenszky", what is nonsense for Slovak or Czech persons. --Omen1229 (talk) 15:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The members of the Jeszenszky family declared themself as a member of the Natio Hungarica, which was the term to indicate of the nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary. Anyway János Jeszenszky or Jan Jesenius also called himself as "eques Hungarus" (lit. Hungarian Knight) (see: here, this work was published in the communist rule, before you say, it is permeated with Hungarian nationalism). The current members of the family also used the "Jeszenszky" form, but the Latin version is also acceptable. Furthermore Jan Jesenius was rather Bohemian, than Slovak. -- Norden1990 (talk) 15:17, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Natio Hungarica" was a term for the people of the Kingdom of Hungary irrespective of their ethnic background, and is thus an indication of geographic status and not ethnic origin. The terms of "Natio Hungarica" or "Natio Hungarorum" should be viewed basically as indicators of geographic and not ethnic origin. The Hungarian Kingdom was not a nation state in the modern sense of the word, but a multiethnic country.[1] Also latin term "eques Hungarus" is "Knight of Kingdom of Hungary" and not "Hungarian/Magyar Knight". So magyar version of name "Jeszenszky" has nothing to do with latin terms "Natio Hungarica" or "eques Hungarus" and we have also latin variant - Jesenius.

The current members of the family also used the "Jeszenszky" form and Jan Jesenius was rather Bohemian, than Slovak is a original research, wikipedia is based on sources and then what is diference between Bohemian and Slovak names for this person? --Omen1229 (talk) 09:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Legends are fine, but... please be consistent![edit]

The "legend" paragraph is far too anachronistic: the article claims Jesenius predicted Emperor Mathias' death (which happened in 1619, also reported) while in his cellar, where he had been imprisoned after the Protestants' defeat at the Battle of the White Mountain; problem is, such battle took place in 1620 and against the army of Emperor Ferdinand II, Mathias' successor. Furthermore, the article claims that Jesenius was in fact released from his Viennese captivity, as prisoner exchange, only to be then executed in Prague. Was he seized again? When? And why? There is a gap here. Unforgiven79 (talk) 22:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected. --Jvs.cz (talk) 17:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Jan Jesenius[edit]

podľa enwiki Jan Jesenius, bol český lekár ... mal slovenské, poľské alebo nemecké korene, ... študoval na univerzite vo Wittenbergu, v Lipsku a na univerzite v Padove ... tzn. že cudzinec lekár, vedec ap., ktorý pracuje na území Čiech, Slovenska, Nemecka, Poľska ap. je automaticky lekárom, vedcom atď., danej krajiny kde pracuje ? ... aký faktor, čo je potom určujúcim faktorom existencie osoby ? Pôvod podľa otca resp. matky, vzdelania či práce ?