Talk:Istrian Italians

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Cleanup[edit]

In the next couple days I hope to clean this article up and remove any and all unsourced claims. The article seems to be thoroughly slanted. -- Director (talk) 15:33, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, also the section Characteristics is awfully organised.--Silvio1973 (talk) 16:30, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@Direktor, perhps the section Characteristics, should be removed and the text allocated in the relevant paragraphs. As it is today it's more a section of history disconnected by the rest of the article. What do you think? --Silvio1973 (talk) 08:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely, but I'm also concerned with the fact that this article is mostly "An Alternate History of Istria". That's no good. The "History" section needs to be stripped of all data not directly related to Istrian Italians. The way things look now, it seems more likely that the "History" section should be deleted, rather than the other one. -- Director (talk) 09:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I don't know what to do with all this. A better title for this article would be "Demographic history of Istria". The sourced stuff needs to be moved elsewhere. -- Director (talk) 09:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the most of the text elsewhere, but I believe there is still a lot, but a really a LOT of redundancy to remove (the article should focus only on the Istrian Italians and as you correctly say). What remains in the last section could be renominated "Language of Istria" but we will need to put in some more information. Or perhapas should be stripped out.--Silvio1973 (talk) 10:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This awkward section has been removed, the redundant text eliminated (except the sources, allocated whenever possible elsewhere). I have also removed some additional text. It looks better but still some work is needed. --Silvio1973 (talk) 08:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I agree with the 20-year-old map.. -- Director (talk) 15:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was my same concern, but between 1991 and 2001 censi the percentage have not changed a lot. It is more precise than the previous however. If we find more recent I am ok to replace.--Silvio1973 (talk) 15:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Its not more "precise", really, its just that the subdivisons were much smaller in Yugoslavia. And that's another problem: the previous map had current subdivisions (općinas). -- Director (talk) 15:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Well, if really bothers you feel free to change it. The issue is that Slovenia is not in. By the way, when the detailed data from the 2011 census will be available. We are nearly in 2013 and they still are not. --Silvio1973 (talk) 07:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Focus of the article[edit]

This article has to focus more on the contribution of Istrian Italians in different fields rather than just on their history. As it is today does not bring more information than the several articles on Istria, the Istrian Exodus and so on. --Silvio1973 (talk) 11:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed one map. There is no reason to insist too much on this ethnicity thing. This article must not be a copy of Istrian Exodus. --Silvio1973 (talk) 07:18, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

lead[edit]

i think that in the lead the "italianized south-slavs" should be changed to "assimilated south-slavs". as it is the article give the wrong impression that they were violently italianized by the fascist during the kingdom of italy while the truth is that they simply assimilated in an italian cultural milieu, during the centuries, when they left the slavic hinterland and moved to the italian\venetian cities in the coast .

hope someone want to improve it

alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.11.99.58 (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Istrians[edit]

I came to this page expecting to see mention of Sergio Marchionne, the CEO of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles. Marchionne's grandfather was killed by Yugoslav Partisans while his uncle was killed by the Nazis, causing his parents to flee to Chieti, where he was born in 1952. Source: Marchionne's bio here on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.90.199.82 (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Double copy[edit]

Lidia Bastianich is mentioned twice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.76.158.162 (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another map[edit]

It would be nice to have a small scale map that shows the region in relation to Italy. Pineapplesuitcase (talk) 06:57, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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