Talk:Interstate 40 in North Carolina/Archive 1

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Migrated exit lists

Both following lists migrated by me from Talk:Interstate 40. —C.Fred (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Can we remove the "Mile" column? And can we finish the table (the blank space on the right doesn't look too good). Also it looks like there's a problem in the Triangle list, I don't know what's up with that. I've tried before, but I just can't get it right. --MPD01605 (T / C) 00:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I didn't edit yet, just copy. I need to look at the latest guidelines and bring it in line with those. I'll start with the Triangle, since I have more first-hand knowledge of the exit list there. —C.Fred (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Looks good. I'll work on the Triad list, and I have a link to a full I-40 exit list (minus municipalities) somewhere. I won't do it tonight...probably not at least. I have some other work to do before that. --MPD01605 (T / C) 02:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Tennessee to Wilmington

County Location # Destinations Notes
Interstate 40 continues into Tennessee
Haywood 7 Harmon Den
15 Fines Creek
20 US 276 south - Waynesville, Maggie Valley
24 NC 209 - Lake Junaluska
27 US 74 west to US 19/US 23 - Clyde, North Carolina, Waynesville US 74 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
31 NC 215 - Canton
33 Newfound Road
Buncombe 37 Candler
44 US 19/US 23 - Enka, Candler
Asheville 46A I-26 east/US 74 east - Hendersonville, Spartanburg US 74 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
46B I-26 west/I-240 - Asheville No access 40 westbound to 26 westbound or 26 eastbound to 40 eastbound
47 NC 191 - West Asheville, Farmer's Market 40 Westbound: To I-26/240 Westbound
50 US 25 - South Asheville, Asheville, Biltmore House Westbound split into 50A and 50B
51 US 25 Alternate - Asheville
53A US 74 Alternate East - Blue Ridge Parkway, Bat Cave
53B I-240 US 74 Alternate West to I-26 west - East Asheville, Asheville
55 To US 70 - East Asheville, V A Hospital
Swannanoa 59 Swannanoa
Black Mountain 64 NC 9 - Black Mountain, Montreat
65 US 70 - Black Mountain US 70 joins eastbound and leaves westbound, westbound exit only
66 Ridgecrest
McDowell 72 US 70 east - Old Fort US 70 leaves eastbound and joins westbound, eastbound exit only
Old Fort 73 Old Fort
75 Parker Padgett Road
81 Marion, Sugar Hills Road
83 Ashworth Road
85 US 221 - Marion, Rutherfordton
86 NC 226 - Marion, Shelby
90 Nebo, Lake James
Burke 94 Dysartsville Road
96 Kathy Road
98 Causby Road
Glen Alpine 100 Jamestown Road - Glen Alpine
Morgantown 103 US 64 - Morganton, Rutherfordton
104 Enola Road
105 NC 18 - Morganton Downtown, Shelby
107 NC 114 - Drexel
Valdese 111 Valdese
112 Mineral Springs Mtn Road
Rutherford College 113 Rutherford College, Connelly Springs
Icard 116 Old NC 10
Hildebran 118 Old NC 10
119 Henry River, Hildebran Eastbound split into 119A and 119B
Catawba Long View 121 Long View
Hickory 123 US 321 to US 70/NC 127 - Hickory, Lenoir, Lincolnton
125 Hickory, Lenoir-Rhyne College
126 To US 70 - Hickory, Newton
Fairgrove 128 Fairgrove Church Road
Conover 130 Old US 70
131 NC 16 - Conover, Taylorsville Eastbound exit only
132 To NC 16 - Conover, Taylorsville
133 Rock Barn Road
Claremont 135 Claremont
138 NC 10 - Oxford School Road, Catawba
Iredell 141 Sharon School Road
144 Old Mountain Road
146 Stamey Farm Road
Statesville 148 US 64/NC 90 - West Statesville, Taylorsville
150 NC 115 - Statesville Downtown, North Wilkesboro
151 US 21 - East Statesville, Harmony
152A I-77 south - Charlotte
152B I-77 north - Elkin
153 US 64 Eastbound exit only
154 To US 64 (Old Mocksville Road)
162 US 64
Davie 168 US 64 - Mocksville
170 US 601 - Mocksville, Yadkinville
174 Farmington Road
180 NC 801 - Tanglewood, Bermuda Run
Forsyth Clemmons 182 Harper Road- Tanglewood, Bermuda Run Westbound exit only
184 Lewisville-Clemmons Road - Lewisville, Clemmons
Winston-Salem 188 Interstate 40 Business/US 421 - Winston-Salem, W-S Downtown, Yadkinville No access from 421 south to 40 west or 40 east to 421 north
189 US 158 (Stratford Road)
190 Hanes Mall Boulevard Wesbound exit only
192 NC 150 (Peters Creek Parkway) - Downtown
193C Silas Creek Parkway, South Main Street Westbound exit only
193A US 52 south/NC 8 south - Lexington
193B US 52 north/US 311 north/NC 8 north - Mount Airy to Interstate 74 west, US 311 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
195 NC 109 (Clemmonsville Road) - Thomasville
196 US 311 south - High Point US 311 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
201 Union Cross Road
Kernersville 203 NC 66 - Kernersville, High Point
Guilford 206 Interstate 40 Business/US 421 north - Kernersville, Winston-Salem Downtown Westbound exit only, US 421 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
Greensboro 208 Sandy Ridge Road, Farmer's Market
210 NC 68 - PTI, High Point
211 Gallimore Dairy Road
213 Guilford College Road
214 Wendover Avenue Split into 214A (Wendover west) and 214B (Wendover east) eastbound
216 NC 6 west - Greensboro, Coliseum Area Eastbound exit only
217 High Point Road - Coliseum Area
218A US 220 south to I-85 Business south - Asheboro US 220 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
218B Freeman Mill Road - Coliseum Area
219 Bus 85 south/US 29 south/US 70 west - Charlotte Business 85, US 29, and US 70 join eastbound and leave westbound, Exit 36A westbound
joins
follows exit numbers
Guilford Greensboro 36 Randleman Road Exit 36B westbound
37 South Elm-Eugene Street - Downtown
38 US 421 south/ML King Jr. Drive - Sanford US 421 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
39 US 29 north/US 70 east/US 220 north - Reidsville US 29, US 70, and US 220 leave eastbound and join westbound, eastbound exit only
41 NC 6 (East Lee Street) to US 29 north/US 220 north
43 McConnell Road
45 I-85 south to US 70 - High Point, Charlotte I-85 joins eastbound and leaves westbound end , Future I-840, Exit 131 westbound
joins
follows exit numbers
Guilford 132 Mount Hope Church Road
135 Rock Creek Dairy Road
138 NC 61 - Gibsonville
Alamance 140 University Drive - Elon
Burlington 141 Huffman Mill Road
143 NC 62 - Alamance
145 NC 49 - Burlington Downtown, Liberty
Graham 147 NC 87 - Graham, Pittsboro
148 NC 54 - Graham, North Carolina, Chapel Hill
150 Haw River
Mebane 152 Trollingwood Road
153 NC 119 - Mebane
154 Mebane-Oaks Road - Mebane
Orange 157 Buckhorn Road
160 Efland
161 To US 70 east to NC 86 north
Hillsborough 163 I-85 north - Durham I-85 leaves eastbound and joins westbound, Exit 259 westbound
separates from
Orange Hillsborough 261 Hillsborough Old NC 86
263 New Hope Church Road
266 NC 86 - Carrboro
Durham Chapel Hill 270 US 15/US 501 - Chapel Hill, Durham
273A-B NC 54 - Chapel Hill, Durham Eastbound combined to single exit 273
274 NC 751 - Jordan Lake, Durham
276 Fayetteville Road - Southpoint
278 NC 55 to NC 54 - Apex, Durham
279A-B NC 147 (Durham Freeway)
RTP 280 Davis Drive
281 Miami Boulevard
282 Page Road
283 I-540 to US 70
Wake 284A-B Airport Blvd - RDU Airport Westbound combined to single exit 284
285 Aviation Parkway - RDU Airport
287 Harrison Avenue - Cary
289 Wade Avenue to US Route 1
Cary 290 NC 54 - Cary
291 Cary Towne Boulevard - Cary
293A US Route 1 south/US 64 west I-440 and US 64 join eastbound and leave westbound
293B I-440 Inner/US 1 north
295 Gorman Street
297 Lake Wheeler Road
Raleigh 298A-B US 401/US 70/NC 50 (S. Saunders Street) - Garner, Fayetteville
299 Person Street/Hammond Road
300 Rock Quarry Road
301 I-440 Outer/US 64 east - Rocky Mount I-440 and US 64 leave eastbound and join westbound, signage eastbound shows I-440 west and westbound shows I-440 Outer
303 Jones Sausage Road
306 US 70 - Garner, Clayton Westbound split into 306A and 306B
Johnston 312 NC 42 - Clayton, Fuquay-Varnia
319 NC 210 - Smithfield, Angier
Benson 325 NC 242 to US 301 - Benson
328A I-95 south - Benson, Fayetteville
328B I-95 north - Smithfield, Rocky Mount
334 NC 96 - Meadow
Sampson Newton Grove 341 NC 50/NC 55 to US 13 - Newton Grove
343 US 701 to US 13 - Newton Grove, Clinton
348 Suttontown Road
355 NC 403 to US 117 - Faison, Goldsboro
Duplin 364 NC 24 west/NC 24 Business to NC 50 - Warsaw, Clinton NC 24 joins eastbound and leaves westbound
369 US 117 - Warsaw
373 NC 24 east/NC 903 - Magnolia, Kenansville NC 24 leaves eastbound and joins westbound
380 Rose Hill, Greenevers
384 NC 11 - Teachey
385 NC 41 - Wallace
Pender 390 US 117 - Wallace
398 NC 53 - Burgaw, North Carolina, Jacksonville
408 NC 210 - Topsail Island
New Hanover Castle Hayne 414 New Hanover
416A I-140 west/US 17 south - Shallotte, Myrtle Beach
416B I-140 east/US 17 north - Topsail Island, Jacksonville
Wilmington 420 US 117 north/NC 132 north (Gordon Road) US 117 and NC 132 join eastbound and leave westbound, Exit split into 420A and 420B westbound
Ends. south continue

Wrightsville Beach

I've deleted Wrightsville Beach from the list of major cities twice now, based on these criteria:

  1. It is not on AASHTO's list of control cities, so it fails that criteria for inclusion.
  2. It is less than 50,000 people in population, so it is not a major city.
  3. It is not located on I-40.

This may be a situation like LA, where it should have its own little note after the listing, but I'm not convinced. Does anybody have a stronger argument than "It appears on a pull-through sign" for why it should be listed? —C.Fred (talk) 16:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Where are you getting these criterea from? No, Wrightsville Beach not on the AASHTO list, but neither is Hickory or Chapel Hill and neither of them, even Statesville or Benson have a population over 50,000.
The AASHTO list are as follows for I-40: Barstow, Needles, Kingman, Flagstaff, Gallup, Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Tucumcari, Amarillo, Oklahoma City, Fort Smith, Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Asheville, Statesville, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Durham, Raleigh, Benson, Wilmington.
The official control cities, identified by AASHTO, are listed in this article in bold, but the ones that are unofficial are in regular text. So how do we know which ones are unofficial? We look at the road signs and see their actual use. "Hickory" is used as a control city for I-40 at the I-26 interchange in Asheville, for instance, and it, in a way, makes sense. Since the junction is in Asheville, the "Asheville" control city name wouldn't make sense to use. The same is true for the Wrightsville Beach addition. Since the I-140/I-40 junction is in Wilmington, using "Wilmington" as a control city is confusing to apply, so the nearest other city, Wrightsville Beach, was chosen. Judging by where Wrightsville Beach is in relation to I-40, this choice is just weird in my opinion, but it's a control city nonetheless. Most control city references are "usually found at highway junctions to show where the intersecting road goes..." That's where the "Wrightsville Beach" name was found, so if it looks like a control city and behaves like a control city, I say it is a control city, unofficial, but still a control city. Main sign I'm basing this on, A sign that features it, but is really confusing, This one is on I-40, but so is Carolina Beach (Not going to debate that one). If you think it's too minor to note, then fine, we don't have to put it. It's silly to argue something like this much further. So, in a nutshell, I disagree with your argument, but we don't have to put it up there. A third editor can share what he/she thinks if he/she wants. Oh and to explain my actions (for whoever wants to know): I did put the Wrightsville Beach entry on the Interstate 40 article to begin with, but it was reverted so I put it on this "in NC" article since it's more localized, hoping it would be more accepted. --Triadian 18:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hickory MSA is over 300,000; Chapel Hill's estimated 2004 population is 52,000 and change. However, both are on the route of I-40. Since I-40 doesn't enter Wrightsville Beach, how about a note similar to the LA note on the I-40 main article?

Note: Wrightsville Beach is used as a{n unofficial} control city at{/near} the intersection with I-140 in Wilmington, even though the highway does not enter the city of Wrighstville Beach.

That presents the info without implying that the highway enters Wrightsville Beach, it's consistent with the main article, and it appropriately drills into state-level detail for the state-specific article. Does that work by you? —C.Fred (talk) 04:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Someone once recently put on the Interstate 77 article the control city of Charleston, South Carolina. This is most likely because for the 5 miles south of South Carolina State Highway 277 in Columbia, South Carolina (its last control city) to its terminus with Interstate 26, I-77 shows Charleston as its control city because it is out of cities.[1] It's still a good two or three hours from Charleston. Things get hairy near the end of Interstates. I-140 intersects I-40 about four miles from its terminus. This is quite a predicament though. I like CFred's idea (from I-40 with LA). But that is also a good few hundred miles, not four or five. I would actually prefer to see LA in the list with a little symbol like † or something to the note at the bottom...I don't know, it's complicated. But that works for the time being. --MPD T / C 04:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I have no problem with something like that if you'd want to put it. It's just an interesting fact and I doubt anyone searching Wikipedia for I-40 in North Carolina would care too much unless they were searching for freaky Interstate signage. Yea, it does get confusing at Interstate ends, and in all reality, it's the state DOT's that get the final say. Heck, one of the signs on I-40's last mile stretch lists Carolina Beach as a control city, but it's only found on one solitary sign and is not used as a way to show where I-40 is going in all reality, and is showing the routing of NC 132, which continues 1 mile ahead. Plus, it's the third city listed, so it's not worth mentioning. --Triadian 06:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

This [2] sign in particular is just interesting. The "Wrightsville Beach" control city applies to I-40 because US 17 and I-140 go away from the beach. What's odd is that US 17 Business would take you closer to Wrightsville Beach than I-40 would. So essentially, if you were traveling down US 17 south and saw the Wrightsville Beach control city sign and followed the route it wanted you to take, you would be sent west away from the beach, then back east. Since the US 17 bypass and I-40 are high-speed freeways though, it actually might be a little quicker to take that way. [3] I just thought that was strange. --Triadian 06:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Stub

Several parts of this article show it as a "stub" - yet it's full-length article. Shoudl the stub designator be removed? Jpp42 12:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

New stretch of I-40

I-40 has a new stretch around Greensboro that opened up this past week. It added about 4.15 miles to the total distance of I-40 in NC. Wendover is still Exit 214, however, the next exit is Groometown road and I cannot remember the exit number at the moment, then the I-40 / I-85 BUS-85 29 interchange is next. I will get this info soon.

One thing to note. Sometime by the end of spring, the NCDOT will have to re-milemark the rest of the interstate starting around mile marker 259 in Orange county where I-40/I-85 split again. All exit numbers beginning with 261 will have to be renumbered, with the majority of exit numbers going up by 4 with the additional strech of road in Guilford county. Just a heads up for those on this project. --Pparazorback (talk) 03:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure about this (i.e. source)? Groomtown Road/I-85 S is 218 (A and B most likely, they're the same ramp off I-40, however), and BUS 85/US 29 N is 219. I saw something in a paper somewhere (Greensboro News and Record) that said that NCDoT wasn't going to renumber/mark the rest of I-40 because it's only 4 miles and, to paraphrase, it "doesn't really matter" in the end and would cost a lot of time and money. That may have changed however. Reference 3 at Greensboro Urban Loop is a map of the loop with exits and numbers. --MPD T / C 18:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
As for the exit number for Groometown on the new stretch, I will confirm that exit number next time I drive down that stretch, which I might do tomorrow. Also to note, that there will eventually be a High Point Rd exit but that is an entirely separate project since they plan on rerouting High point road between Groometown and just before the Adams Farm shopping Center. As for the commentary about not renumbering, I never saw the article that they won't renumber but that might be possible that they might not do it. They should renumber it for accuracy. Now, when I-85 was rerouted, they did not change anything, however the reroute only ended up adding less than a quarter mile to the entire route. I guess we will see. --Pparazorback (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
218 is correct for Groometown, numbered from I-85's mile markers. --Pparazorback (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Several State Troopers have died in the Haywood Co. section?

Needs reference.. sounds unlikely to me. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The reference is the citation just before that part of the paragraph. You only need one citation for many facts in a paragraph. But the sentence wasn't entirely correct. The article, published 19 November 2003, states that two state troopers had been killed by speeding trucks while conducting traffic stops along the stretch in the 18 months prior to the article. You're correct in that it's not "several". According to this article published a few weeks ago the total number is four state trooper deaths in 23 years. The first was shot in '86, then came the 2001 and 2003 accident deaths, then the latest shooting in June. Take what you will from it, I just edited the sentence to reflect the current citation. --MPD T / C 20:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Great follow up. Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

"Major" cities

If Benson (aka BFE) is included on the "Major Cities" list, then the name of the list should be changed to "Major or Control cities"...or something with "control". A North Carolinian reading the current list would probably wonder how Benson (pop. 3374) could be considered a city, let alone a major city. APK is ready for the tourists to leave 02:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a standard. Go to WT:USRD and bring it up there as it's a WikiProject standard. --MPD T / C 03:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Though there was a caption on the list noting that entries in bold are AASHTO control cities. I'm not sure what happened to it. —C.Fred (talk) 03:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Come to think of it, that's not the Major Cities template at all. --MPD T / C 05:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh god. I'd rather the page contain incorrect information than try to convince some project's members to change their way of thinking (that goes for all projects, mine included). APK is ready for the tourists to leave 04:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
APK, I agree with you 100%. To be fair, I hadn't looked at the article, just saw the edit summaries pop up on my watchlist. Its current state should explain it all. C.Fred- that other template was added by the anon user; before, it was a section and had a control cities note. I'm trying out a new template on a few articles that addresses some concerns I've encountered with major/control cities sometimes (such as "Canada") (not to mention the old template isn't actually a template and has to be coded into the article). --MPD T / C 05:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Page Construction

I will be working on Interstate 40 for the next week. If there is anything that looks unfinished, don't delete it, I had to go do something and will be back to it later. The main area I will be working on is the route description and first section.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncchild (talk • contribs) 18:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Redesigning History

@Washuotaku:, I wanted to get your opinion on a restructuring of the Interstate's history to go more in order based on time. Seems like we have some of that then it goes into a bunch of subcategories and it may be confusing to readers.--Ncchild (talk) 02:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Writing eloquently and incorporating existing works isn't my strong suit, so I'm cool if you can reformat it in a better organization. Just remember to incorporate the important history and don't delete anything unless it is fluff. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Alright cool. I wasn't planning on deleting any details unless of course it's not needed.--Ncchild (talk) 22:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway

I noticed the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway is not listed as one of the names for I-40. Prior to his terms in the state senate, Warren was the director of driver's licenses from 1970-1974. It looks like the name was added in 2005. I assume the people who maintain this page are more familiar with what the database is saying here, or would know how to pull up the complete entry: [4] (entry is on page 8). Also mentioned in this obituary: [5]. The sign on eastbound I-40 comes just before mile marker 337 in Johnston County.

Screenshot from a dashcam showing the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway sign just before mile marker 337

I might have dashcam footage showing the sign on the westbound lanes also (if it hasn't recorded over yet), but I would assume somewhere in some database is a listing of the exact stretch of I-40 that is the Sen. Robert D. Warren Highway. --jqubed (Talk | Contributions) 00:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for alerting us and feel free to make any additional constructive edits. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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