Talk:International recognition of Israel

Include Trump's Jerusalem recognition?

Recently, President Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel - should this be included, since it is closely related to recognition of Israel? SelfieCity (talk) 03:27, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

No. Israel as a counrty was recognised by the USA in the 1940s. Ove Raul (talk) 08:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Oman

Did Oman officially recogise Israel in October 2018? I've seen articles saying so.

(86.160.64.174 (talk) 17:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC))

Well - Bibi and his wife paid the Sultan an official visit - [1][2] - however Peres did visit in 1996 as well, and there are (or were?) trade representative offices - [3]. So good question - perhaps they accept these visits while not changing their position of non-recognition? Or maybe they are just being ambiguous? 17:24, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Formal recognition between Israel and Oman would be a very big deal that would make headlines for days. You didn't see that because it didn't happen. Zero^talk 23:26, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Oman didn’t recognize Israel. I emailed the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affaires, they said that Oman still doesn’t recognize Israel. ייהליזיושמר (talk) 15:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Cuba and North Korea definitely recognize Israel

This article confuses diplomatic relations with recognition. Israeli tourists largely have no problems travelling to Cuba and North Korea with Israeli papers.--Reciprocist (talk) 11:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Ability to travel is different from diplomatic relations. Zero^talk 11:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

This article is not about diplomatic relations, it is about recognition.--Reciprocist (talk) 00:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, please read the first sentence of the article. Zero^talk 02:07, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Diplomatic recognition and diplomatic relations are different things.--Reciprocist (talk) 16:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

And still, North Korea and Cuba does not recognize Israel. ייהליזיושמר (talk) 10:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Do you have any good proof for this? They have no problems with accepting Israeli passports.--Reciprocist (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Omani recognition of Israel

I turned to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs - despite having positive Omani statements about Israel, Oman still didn’t officially recognized it. ייהליזיושמר (talk) 10:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 October 2019

The statement that Israeli's will be allowed to visit Qatar during the 2020 FIFA World Cup is an unsupported claim. Qatar have yet to comment on whether they will allow Israeli's as of yet. I think this statement should be removed until a reliable source can be found. Just to make it clear, I want the claim that Israeli's will be allowed to visit Qatar during the 2020 FIFA World Cup removed from the Qatar section of the article. Lokii192 (talk) 18:23, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Philroc (c) 19:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Oman does not recognise Israel nor does it have diplomatic relations with it

https://www.timesofisrael.com/oman-denies-its-establishing-diplomatic-ties-with-israel/

https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutTheMinistry/Pages/Israel-s%20Diplomatic%20Missions%20Abroad.aspx

Here you can see official sources; a visit to a country does not mean the same as recognition 103.70.152.26 (talk) 19:47, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

You are quite correct and I removed it. Do you see other mistakes? Zero^talk 11:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Chad

Can somebody change Chad on the map a little please, as this green is slichtly off, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bart1998smits (talk • contribs) 22:44, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Bolivia

As of November 28th 2019, Bolivia has renewed ties with Israel which were suspended in 2009.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-bolivia-renews-diplomatic-relations-with-israel-after-over-decade-of-severed-ties-1.8196273

(2A00:23C7:C081:8000:3CC9:E17E:E93:922B (talk) 20:53, 28 November 2019 (UTC))

Maps still needs to be edited as of 18 December 2019 to reflect change in status on Bolivia, changing colors to show current recognition and diplomatic relations. One-Off Contributor (talk) 05:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

 Already done. The map has be to be updated from Commons however. Please request so at Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop – Ammarpad (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Bolivia has cut their ties with Israel as of October 31st, 2023. CerealContainer (talk) 02:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Merger proposal with Foreign relations of Israel

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a

Merge Proposal and / or Redirect. Please do not modify it.
The result of the request for the Proposed Merger of Foreign relations of Israel into this talk page's article was:

Not Done—No Consensus to Merge
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I propose merging this article with Foreign relations of Israel. There is little in this article that cannot comfortably be contained in the other, and much of this article's information is redundant with the latter. International recognition of Israel is not a significant topic. Outside of the Arab world, most of the countries in the world recognize Israel. Accordingly, much of this article spends time discussing foreign relations with those countries as opposed to recognition. Non-recognition in the Arab world is largely a byproduct of a failure in international diplomacy, as also discussed in the article. The lists in this page are useful and it includes valuable historic information, but by and large everything here can be folded under Foreign relations of Israel or already exists there. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 19:13, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I would oppose this. There are still about 20% of countries in the world that don't recognise Israel. I feel it is important to have a separate article to show this and not to have it buried in another article. AnthonyIreland (talk) 13:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@AnthonyIreland: Your number is grossly inaccurate, and you are not entitled to vote and then close this discussion. Approximately 36 countries do not recognize Israel, which is just 20% of UN member nations, not the entire world. And these are primarily countries with whom Israel has hostile diplomatic relations. The underlying issue here is diplomatic relations with Israel, recognition is merely an indication of where diplomatic channels are (open or closed). This list can easily be incorporated into the article on this topic, Foreign Relations of Israel. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 21:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Wikieditor19920: You say my number is grossly inaccurate, and then give me the same number, but just worded differently. Also, if you had read my previous comment correctly, you would have seen that I said "about 20% of countries". But if you want to go by your metric of U.N. members, 20% is still a sizeable amount. What other U.N. member only has recognition and diplomatic channels with 80% of the world? Are these 20% not important? The discussion has been here for around 2 months. I voted and was the only person that had voted. After 4 days, I returned and saw that I was the still only person who had voted after almost 2 months. The fact of the matter is that Israel is still unrecognised by a fair section of the planet. If also using your metric of "diplomatic channels", Palestine, for example, has more diplomatic channels with both countries and U.N. members than Israel (note that diplomatic channels does not equal recognition). Maybe we should merge that article too? I'm not here to say if Israel should be recognised as a country or not or who is right or wrong in the conflict, but from a neutral point of view, this article is important to keep for the reasons listed in my previous comment. Once again, I oppose a merge. (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Voting in a discussion and then closing it isn't proper procedure, and the figure as you described it was incorrect. So is voting twice. Recognition of Israel and recognition of Palestine are not equivalent issues. "Recognition of Israel" is basically a proxy for relations. For Palestine, this is not the case. This is basically a list with a few paragraphs of prose, and it starts sounding like a WP:POVFORK when you get to the section on "Present situation," where it dwells by noting countries that do not recognize Israel and diplomatic incidents with those countries. All of this is directly related to foreign relations. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 07:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC) — — — — —
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UAE Recognition

We should make adjustments now that the UAE has normalizes ties with Israel. PurpleDeskChair (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Israel and UAE strike historic deal to normalise relations — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dg74 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Needs to be better sourced. My impression is that it's correct that the UAE now recognizes Israel as a country, but the sources we're citing don't explicitly say so. GeoEvan (talk) 22:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

As far as I know, the US, Israel, and the UAE have declared that Israel and the UAE will sign a "roadmap" to "normalization". I don't know if this currenty amounts to recognition. No agreement was signed, only an intention was declared.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 00:11, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Bolter21. It is jumping the gun to say that UAE recognised Israel already. It takes time and quibbling over details before the formal documents are signed. It could even (though probably won't) fall through. Zero^talk 01:52, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Signing is expected in early September. I do think the current article is slightly incorrect however as Israeli passports have been allowed for sporting events. CMD (talk) 02:29, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

At the moment it seems like a de-facto recognition, until an actual agreement is signed in September. Azaan Habib 14:04, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Presumably this is a list of de jure recognition, not de facto recognition. I don't suppose anyone's seen the text of the agreement? [Edit: Oh, I see now, it's not clear whether there even is a written agreement to be signed yet.] GeoEvan (talk) 04:58, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Ambiguity of "Cut Relations" vs. "Withdrew Recognition"

The article currently states that 30 members of the UN do not recognize Israel, while the infobox implies that Niger, Mali, Mauritania, and Venezuela still recognize Israel but have suspended diplomatic relations. Later in the article, it provides no difference between Iran's and Venezuela's recognition of Israel, even though the infobox clearly distinguishes them. Is there some way to reduce this ambiguity? Bill Williams (talk) 09:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Oman

Although Oman has yet to normalize relations with Israel, it clearly recognizes Israel as a state (see Israel–Oman relations). The map should be updated to reflect that. Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

The lead of that article clearly states "In line with the Arab League position in relation to Israel, Oman does not officially recognise the state of Israel". CMD (talk) 03:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 August 2020

Bahrain and Oman should not be counted since no reference indicated that they recognized Israel!! 184.22.161.107 (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2020 (UTC) 184.22.161.107 (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bahrain and Oman are not "counted" anywhere in the text. The text actually says: {[tq|As of August 2020...Thirty UN member states do not recognize Israel. These include...Bahrain,...Oman...}} It also notes that Israeli passports are accepted for transit only and not entry. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:29, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

@Eggishorn: please read the table where two countries were added with no sources: Bahrain as 10 and Oman as 108, which makes the total 163, which is wrong ! And for UAE, it is mentioned: "Accept Israeli passports for transit only, does not accept for admission.[179]" The references is only a link to an article which also should be removed. 210.90.255.126 (talk) 09:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

the map at the top of the page

Is it possible to consider changing the color of "Countries that have never recognized Israel" to a shade of red or another color? Grey seems like a "no info" color, and although it says in the key underneath, I think this change could be made. It's just a small change. NickleSonic (talk) 22:11, 28 August 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickleSonic (talk • contribs) 22:10, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Kosovo

Press articles dated September 4, 2020 indicate that Kosovo and Israel will recognize each other, which would require an update to the article and its graphics. Sources: https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-kosovo-to-be-first-muslim-majority-nation-to-open-jerusalem-embassy/, https://www.timesofisrael.com/serbia-to-move-embassy-to-jerusalem-mostly-muslim-kosovo-to-recognize-israel/.One-Off Contributor (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done See WP:RS and WP:CRYSTAL A Times of Israel article about a Donald Trump statement that a third country "will" do something is not a reliable source that something has been done. Assertions by the President of one country are not binding on that other country and this particular President has a well-documented history of claiming things will be done that never are. There are also obvious domestic political issues that make any announcements about future actions especially troublesome. If Kosovo announces in the future that it has fully restored diplomatic relations and this is covered by a RS, then it can be included. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Bahrain

Based on press accounts concerning possible normalization on September 11, 2020 (https://www.timesofisrael.com/bahrain-to-establish-full-diplomatic-relations-with-israel-trump-announces/#gs.fven4y), an update may be needed.One-Off Contributor (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Same reasoning for the similar section above. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Reliable source press accounts now confirm normalization agreement has been signed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/15/uae-bahrain-and-israel-sign-historic-accords-at-white-house-event-formal-relations-trump-netanyahu https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/israel-uae-bahrain-white-house-analysis-intl/index.html Or, if you prefer a direct source, here is a link directly to the Kingdom of Bahrain Ministry of Foreign Affairs: https://www.mofa.gov.bh/Default.aspx?tabid=7824&language=en-US&ItemId=14331 One-Off Contributor (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Niger and Mali

In the map it seems they have cut relations but they are not shown as having withdrawn recognition. In the text it is claimed they do not recognize Israel. May it is unknown or more complicated but there should be no contradiction between the text and the map

Maldives

Israel does not currently maintain diplomatic relations with the Maldives (though the latter does recognize the State of Israel). Previous diplomatic relations lasted between 1965 and 1974, and were then suspended. During the 1990's relations improved, culminating in the signing of 3 mutual agreements (which were dissolved in 2014), however they never developed into full diplomatic relations. See sources: https://mfa.gov.il/mfa/pressroom/2011/pages/maldive_foreign_minister_visiting_israel_17_may_2011.aspx and https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-warns-israelis-to-leave-crisis-racked-maldives/amp/.

The entry's map should be amended to reflect the above information (the Maldives should be colored light-red). Furthermore, the last sentence of the 3rd paragraph under the History section should be amended: "Several countries that once had diplomatic relations with Israel have since broken or suspended them: Cuba and Venezuela in Latin America; Mauritania, Mali and Niger in Africa; the Maldives in South Asia; and Iran after the Islamic revolution."

The entry for the Maldives in the List by Country table should also be changed accordingly (colored yellow and date of recognition changed to 1965).

 Done Heitordp (talk) 05:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Taiwan

The Non-UN Member States table is missing Taiwan. Though maintaining unofficial relations, the two countries do not officially recognize each other (see https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/taiwan-israel-collaboration/). The entry's map should also accordingly reflect that (Taiwan should be colored grey).

Number of UN members in the Arab League

@DOSGuy: The difference was due to Palestine, not Syria. Note that the paragraph said "17 of the X UN members in the Arab League", not "17 of X members of the Arab League". The number of UN members in the Arab League is 21, because Palestine is not a UN member. I thought that it made sense to include only UN members because the paragraph started counting only UN member states. Anyway, to avoid confusion, I just simplified it with "17 members of the Arab League". Heitordp (talk) 06:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is Sudan not highlighted in green anymore

Why is Sudan removed shouldn’t it be in green Thekingofserver (talk) 17:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Duplicate, see below. Swil999 (talk) 09:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

What is Sudan not highlighted in green anymore

Shouldn’t Sudan be highlighted back in green Thekingofserver (talk) 17:33, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Thekingofserver (talk) 17:33, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Possible duplicate of earlier request. Please be more specific. If you are talking about the images, they are not on Wikipedia but on WM Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_that_reject_Israeli_passports.png) Swil999 (talk) 09:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

correction

Hello,

I seen that sudan is marked as green country that recognize in israel existence. however, sudan and israel are only in negotiating stage and no agreement has been signed unlike emirates and bahrain. I would ask that u remove sudan from the green countries until they sign agreement with israel.

70.54.117.2 (talk) 21:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

They have signed an agreement with Israel Israeli diplomats have visited last week Thekingofserver (talk) 00:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

The IP is correct https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/sudan-puts-israel-ties-on-hold-until-us-grants-immunity-650846 Selfstudier (talk) 09:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

They are negotiating but parliament have to say OK. and plus i don't like reading anything israili or jewish Samar al-hejazi (talk) 20:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Somebody can you make sudan not green anymore on the map because they did not yet recognisng israel (non existing country) yet. legal assembly has to approve it. and you did not mention that america and the jews are bribing poor sudanese with money to do it.

Samar al-hejazi (talk) 20:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Morocco 2020

Morocco may need to be updated. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-and-morocco-to-establish-full-official-relations-trump-announces/ One-Off Contributor (talk) 17:14, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Oman

Is kinda "soon": 2601:602:9200:1310:2C6C:F13B:C2A2:4547 (talk) 21:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC) https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20201003-sudan-oman-postpone-normalising-ties-with-israel-until-after-us-elections/

Bhutan

On 12th December, Bhutan and Israel have developed diplomatic relations, so can someone add content regarding that here? Master Sam 77 (talk) 17:02, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Additional source to confirm: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-inks-deal-establishing-diplomatic-relations-with-bhutan/ One-Off Contributor (talk) 23:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2020

Please update the map, table etc for Bhutan. Impossiblegend (talk) 17:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 May 2021

Hey, I read your wikipedia article and it seems to me that Argentina wasnt the first Latin country that recognized Israel, there are other countries like Brazil, Costa Rica, Colombia, and Uruguay that did before Argentina, and thats according to your own article, both Costa Rica and Uruguay have a date around May 1948 and Argentina on February 1949. The actual first country I think was Nicaragua. So I suggest erasing that note on Argentina's recognition and adding it to Nicaragua... I speak spanish and I read the source material for Argentina's claim and its an "La nación" article, its very flawed and has no source material. Im new to editing wikipedia so if I didnt use this correctly please let me now if possible. 167.61.39.49 (talk) 16:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LOMRJYO^{(talk•contrib)} 18:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Source for US de facto recognition

The source given for the de facto recognition made by President Truman as soon as Israel was declared, cannot be found when following the link. However, there is a better source. This one: https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel /Ove Raul (talk) 08:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, ScottishFinnishRadish, but the old link is still there in the table showing the recognition made by different countries. (Also, I think the link should be moved to the date in the column for de facto recognition, but that’s more of an aesthetic view.) Ove Raul (talk) 07:31, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Ove Raul, I think that takes care of it. Look good? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:34, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Not really, I’m sorry ScottishFinnishRadish, but it seems you replaced the reference for the de jure recognition in the table, not the reference for the de facto recognition. Ove Raul (talk) 10:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Ove Raul, I hope that does it. One of these days I should learn how to read and write, it would make editing Wikipedia much easier. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, that did it. Ove Raul (talk) 17:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Possible edit on discussion of Bangladesh passport restrictions

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Bangladesh accepts israeli passports: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/27/bangladesh-drops-except-israel-from-passports-creates-confusio https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/confusion-as-bangladesh-drops-except-israel-from-new-passports/2252088. Marko8726 (talk) 06:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Marko8726, just a heads up, pings don't work unless you sign a post in the same edit as the ping. Luckily I noticed this on my watchlist. There's a lot of being unsure in that source. AK Abdul Momen, the country’s foreign minister, on Wednesday told a media briefing attended by Al Jazeera that Bangladesh has not changed its position towards Israel. “No one from Bangladesh can visit Israel” and if anyone does, “legal action will be taken against that person,” the minister said. The change to the new e-passport was only to “maintain international standard”, Abdul Momen said, without elaborating. “Passport is just an identity and it doesn’t reflect the foreign policy of a country. The foreign policy of Bangladesh remains the same as it was during Bangabandhu’s (the founding father Sheikh Mujibur Rahman) time. We don’t recognise Israel,” the minister said. I also don't see where that source says they accept Israeli passports. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Further source: https://www.dw.com/en/new-bangladeshi-passport-fuels-speculation-over-israel-ties/a-57731321. Please note that the article discusses possible removal of the restriction in certain Bangladeshi passports from visiting Israel (and informal practices of circumventing those restrictions), not any change on policy on Israeli passports being accepted in Bangladesh--a change which even in the article is described as contested in terms of its impact (for example whether or not under current Bangladeshi law its citizens can be punished for traveling to Israel). One-Off Contributor (talk) 01:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Recognition and diplomatic relations aren't the same

@ScottishFinnishRadish: There are some countries who severed relation but didn't withdraw their recognition. Marko8726 (talk) 10:46, 11 June 2021 (UTC) @Zero0000:@Eggishorn:@Heitordp:@Lomrjyo: Marko8726 (talk) 09:09, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Give an example so we can see what you are talking about. Zero^talk 09:23, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Zero0000:@Eggishorn:@Heitordp:@Lomrjyo: Mauritania, Maldives, Venezuela, Mali, Tunisia, Qatar: Countries who severed relation but didn't withdraw their recognition like e.g. Iran and Cuba. Marko8726 (talk) 12:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Marko8726:, I'm not sure what you are asking. The prose of the article for Mauritania, for example, does in deed say that country severed relations and the table says likewise. It doesn't say they stopped recognizing Israel. We would also need some references about this. As far as I am aware, "refusing to recognize" or "withdrawing recognition" are not actual terms of diplomatic usage. They are used in news media to convey severing of relations on some level. If you can find a source that says, e.g., "Although Mauritania has severed relations, it still recognizes Israel's right to exist," that would be very helpful. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree that recognition and diplomatic relations are different things, but I find it difficult to determine when recognition exists on its own. Qatar and Tunisia had trade relations with Israel but I don't think that they ever recognized it as a state, just like many countries have trade relations with Taiwan. The other countries that you listed had diplomatic relations with Israel, which implies recognition at the time as well, but I'm not sure if they still maintain recognition after severing the relations, or even if Cuba really withdrew recognition. Only Iran seems to be clear about it. Heitordp (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

One needs to do this case by case, it is usually easy enough to establish whether a country is merely de facto recognizing another state. Sometimes it is explicit, as was the case with initial US recognition of Israel, first de facto and later de jure.Selfstudier (talk) 17:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Mauritania: https://www.indstate.edu/cas/sites/arts.indstate.edu/files/Faculty/melyassini/U.S.-Mauritania%20Relations%20and%20the%20Coriolis%20Force%20of%20Normalization%20with%20Israel_0.pdf

Venezuela: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/uae-just-recognized-israel-when-will-venezuela/ Qatar: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20622930 Tunisia, Mali had relations with Israel, but didn't recognize it, while the Maldives withdrew their recognition. @Zero0000:@Eggishorn:@Heitordp:@Lomrjyo: Marko8726 (talk) 06:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

You do not need to ping this list of users every time you post a message here. It is considered polite, @Marko8726:, to use this when directly replying to an individual editor (as I just did here). For lists of editors, however, the first group ping is generally considered enough and the editors who are interested will have this talk page on their watchlists. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 07:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Situation in Afghanistan

In the list by country, the section with Afghanistan, I suggest adding that the Taliban has also stated that it will not establish ties will Israel. It would make sense to add it after the recent Taliban offensive.

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/taliban-willing-to-establish-relations-with-all-nations-except-israel/ Chxeese (talk) 19:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Iran

Iran is currently listed as a country that has withdrawn recognition of Israel while none of the sources cited state that Iran had officially (de jure) recognized Israel. According to this entry of Encyclopædia Iranica (written by Israeli historian David Menashri), Iranian recognition was only de facto. Pahlevun (talk) 20:53, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

The same source explicitly rejects de jure recognition:

Iranian government refrained from recognizing Israel de jure, precisely due to the need to win regional approval and support for Iran’s leadership ambitions.

—Pahlevun (talk) 21:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I changed the colour of Iran in the table to red. I think the map should be updated accordingly. Pahlevun (talk) 21:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Recognition from 165 or 164 countries? Of the 193 or 192 UN member states?

The introduction of the article says "As of December 2020, it has received diplomatic recognition from 165 (85%) of the 193 total UN member states.", however the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel#UN_member_states only displays 164 UN member states. Who is the 165th one?

I also noticed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Foreign_relations it says "Israel maintains diplomatic relations with 164 member states of the United Nations" and on the introduction of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Israel it says "Israel has diplomatic ties with 164 of the other 192 UN member states as of December 2020.". The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_United_Nations says there are "193 sovereign states that are members of the United Nations" so it would mean another member recently joined that should be added on the list?

--Baptx (talk) 17:21, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

I also noticed an issue, the number 151 in the list is used twice for Turkey and Turkmenistan, there is no number 152. I suggest using automated list numbering instead of hardcoding the number if possible to avoid this mistake. But this does not answer my 2 questions because the result is still 164 countries in the list. Baptx (talk) 17:38, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

There are only 164 countries, see here. Wishes, --Urgelein (talk) 09:16, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Iran, Qatar, Niger

The map is inaccurate, since none of them ever recognized Israel to begin with, therefore suspending relations is overridden by their lack of de jure recognition, and their colors should be grey instead of shades of red. Bill Williams 23:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Acctualy iran in the past was one of the best ally of israel, until 1979 The big zoro (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

State with Limited Recognition

Sorry I didn't see this was in the article earlier, but my point still stands. You need to have significant citations to claim that a state recognized by 85% of countries only has "limited recognition." Having a single source that states this in passing in a single sentence is not significant enough for the lead of the article. The lead of the State of Palestine's article on the subject does not even mention this and it's only recognized by around 70% of countries. No need for an irrational double standard. Bill Williams 17:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Earlier you reverted long standing content with edit summary "zero citations" for this" and I duly obtained a citation and now you have removed it again saying that it is only one citation, only one is needed, List of states with limited recognition refers, and is certainly better than zero. Obvious POV editing.Selfstudier (talk) 17:51, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Asking for sources and then shifting goalposts and saying it's not about sources when they arrive is ridiculous - and yes, the State of Palestine also has limited recognition: that's pretty obvious, since it's a parastate - but feel more than free to go and make that point more explicit on that page if you wish. Iskandar323 (talk) 04:37, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

What's ridiculous is pretending like a state with 85% of countries recognizing it has "limited recognition" when every other state listed under that category has dozens less countries recognizing them. It's misleading and a complete joke to take one source claiming Israel has limited recognition when far ore sources state that it has overwhelming recognition. It's POV editing to abuse a single source. Bill Williams 13:21, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

[4][5] the vast majority of sources mention nothing about Israel when talking about which states have limited recognition, yet this article says "alongside its status as a state with limited recognition" as if that is some fact. It's not comparable to those other states, unless you can provide more sources claiming so. Bill Williams 13:25, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

There are several countries on the list that are only one or two UN members short of full UN assembly recognition. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:03, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source for starters, and that list is just about any dispute over a country's territory, it does not claim that all of those countries have "limited recognition". Please provide more sources claiming that Israel has limited recognition or using a single source is UNDUE for the lead of the article. Bill Williams 19:11, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

It is a fundamental feature of Israel's recognition that it is less than universal unlike most UN member states, not even sure that it needs a source at all other than the wl, the original text never had one and was perfectly happy without until you somewhat arbitrarily decided that it did. Selfstudier (talk) 21:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's a fairly natural extension of the language of its recognition not being full. Not sure what other synonyms there are for 'limited'. Iskandar323 (talk) 05:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Then provide more sources than one to claim that. "Limited recognition" does not imply less than 100%, that's not even close to what anyone interprets the word as meaning, it implies significantly below that, the definition is literally "restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short." It's absurd to claim that Israel has few, a small number, or short supply of countries recognizing it. Bill Williams 12:55, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Hmm ... "restricted in size, amount, or extent" - works totally fine. "significantly below" on the other hand, is your interpretation. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

How about you find some sources explaining Israel's level of recognition and how it is less than its peers and we will consider those in the alternative. Selfstudier (talk) 13:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Cuba

The article says "the most recent government does not recognize it" and cites an Israeli newspaper. But there is no such claim in the article cited. Reciprocist (talk) 06:34, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Iranian recognition

There is a mistake in Israel's international recognition.  Iran until 1979 recognized and strongly supported Israel, it supported the establishment of the State of Israel and was even among the first countries to establish an embassy, ​​it should be changed to the correct category The big zoro (talk) 15:31, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I have corrected this oversight, creating a new descriptor (and background color) for states like Iran, which used to recognize Israel but no longer do so and are now in a state of war with Israel. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Colombia severed?

MercoPress told me something from Colombian president on this topic? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:15, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Bolivia has cut diplomatic ties as of October 31st, 2023.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/bolivia-israel-hamas-gaza-war-crime https://www.timesofisrael.com/?post_type=liveblog_entry&p=3141021 https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bolivia-severs-diplomatic-ties-with-israel-citing-crimes-against-humanity-2023-10-31/ https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/law-order/2688642-bolivia-severs-diplomatic-ties-with-israel https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-771083 SpinalSquirrel (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Venezuela

These 5 countries do recognise Israel, but served diplomatic relations, just like Bolivia. Therefore, these countries should also be numbered in the list just like Bolivia, as well as fixing Qatar in the map, which never had diplomatic relations with Israel. 147.235.208.71 (talk) 09:38, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Somalia

President of Somalia declares recognition of Israel. https://t.me/LebUpdate/34749 --95.24.66.79 (talk) 12:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Due to the ongoing conflict in Gaza, I believe this website needs to be updated.

You guys might want to check again, but I do believe that Belize and Bahrain have suspended diplomatic relations with Israel, due to the ongoing conflict in the region. Here are the links to sites with updates on this topic:

Bahrain Severs Ties with Israel | Atlas News (theatlasnews.co) Bahrain severs ties with Israel, calls for Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as capital (theprint.in)

Belize Cuts Diplomatic Ties with Israel; U.N. Palestine Observer Slams Olaf Scholz’s Defense of Israel | Democracy Now! Belize Latest Cutting Diplomatic Ties With Israel — Joining These 8 Other Countries (forbes.com) SuperHyper74 (talk) 20:11, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Some interests are not updating the article on purpose it seems, as this happened months ago. Regular people can't edit the article and add accurate information, even if they have accounts, since it is "extended-protected" (just after this, too). 200.127.211.12 (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Belize

Belize should be in red now 186.154.27.19 (talk) 07:10, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2023

add

instead of the old picture as south africa has voted to cut off ties with israel Gorgonopsi (talk) 23:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done — FenrisAureus ▲ (she/they) (talk) 07:54, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

References

 Comment: This should probably be uploaded as a new version of File:Countries recognizing Israel.svg rather than replacing the image in the article. Also, the table in the article will also have to be updated with this new information. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Yet months later it still isn't done, even as South Africa is formally accusing Israel of genocide at the International Criminal Court. 200.127.211.12 (talk) 18:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Recognition of Israel

Belize broke ties with Israel like a week ago, also today South Africa broke ties. 2A01:9700:1AD8:2100:F4DD:DB8C:8BCD:6CDE (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Vector version of Countries that reject Israeli passports.png available

Countries that reject Israeli passports.svg is the vector version of Countries that reject Israeli passports.png and should be used in place of this raster image where the raster image contains information that could be stored more efficiently and/or accurately in the SVG format, as a vector graphic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thearones (talk • contribs) 09:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect logic in the information

"Israel's second application was rejected by the Security Council on 17 December 1948 by a 5-to-1 vote, with 5 abstentions. Syria was the sole negative vote; the United States, Argentina, Colombia, the Soviet Union, and the Ukrainian SSR voted in favour; and Belgium, the United Kingdom, Canada, China, and France abstained."

By reading above described voting disposition it appears that the word "rejected" in the above quoted paragraph is NOT correct and should be replaced with the word "approved"... 2601:19C:4A03:42F6:B0FC:7433:15A3:474C (talk) 04:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Wrong coloring of Palestine/West Bank in the map

The map alleges that the West Bank and Gaza recognize israel (they are in green). Hoeever, Hamas doesn't recognize israel, and the article for the Palestine Liberation Organization states that they have suspended recognition of Israel in 2018, meaning they should be either red or dark red. This also should be reflected on the text information. 200.127.211.12 (talk) 18:34, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect logic in the information

"Israel's second application was rejected by the Security Council on 17 December 1948 by a 5-to-1 vote, with 5 abstentions. Syria was the sole negative vote; the United States, Argentina, Colombia, the Soviet Union, and the Ukrainian SSR voted in favour; and Belgium, the United Kingdom, Canada, China, and France abstained. 2601:19B:1:7B20:B0FC:7433:15A3:474C (talk) 21:22, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect logic in the information

"Israel's second application was rejected by the Security Council on 17 December 1948 by a 5-to-1 vote, with 5 abstentions. Syria was the sole negative vote; the United States, Argentina, Colombia, the Soviet Union, and the Ukrainian SSR voted in favour; and Belgium, the United Kingdom, Canada, China, and France abstained." By reading above described voting disposition it appears that the word "rejected" in the above quoted paragraph is NOT correct and should be replaced with the word "approved"... 2601:19B:1:7B20:B0FC:7433:15A3:474C (talk) 21:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)