Talk:Igor González de Galdeano

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Former good article nomineeIgor González de Galdeano was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 26, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
March 9, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 31, 2006.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that retired Spanish road bicycle racer Igor González de Galdeano holds the record for the fastest stage win in the Vuelta a España at an average of 55.17 kph, a feat which earned him the nickname Speedy González?
Current status: Former good article nominee

Good Article Review[edit]

Good article review[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (inline citations): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
  5. It is stable.
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
  7. Pass/Fail:
    a Well written:
    b Factually accurate:
    c Broad in coverage:
    d NPOV:
    e Stable:
    f Images:
    g Overall:

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Review by: IvoShandor


More specific comments[edit]

  • Criteria #1: Well written.
  • Prose:
  • General:
  • Copy edit needed. In the intro I saw a missing commas: is a Spanish, former professional
  • run by: verbiage such as that could be replaced by a word like 'operated', look for other examples of excessive wordiness.
  • It was in this Tour: Phrases worded such as this could be replaced by something like: During the Tour
  • Intro
  • González de Galdeano became a key rival of Lance Armstrong in the middle of his Tour de France supremacy. Not to be nitpicky but that sentence is rather unclear as to who was dominating the Tour de France, I know it seems like common knowledge that Armstrong was but many readers may not know that.
  • This parenthetical: (which is now Euskaltel-Euskadi). Probably a bit wordy, lose what I crossed out.
  • Try to avoid vague terminology such as and a number of or similar wording. Use your sources to make statements more specific.
  • sprints and mountains classifications: Wouldn't that be sprint and mountain classifications?
  • Early in the season, González de Galdeano won stage five: This needs context, stage five of what?
  • and hencing coining his nickname, Speedy González.: and hence, . . .
  • Word choice: Battle was resumed. Better word than 'battle' needed.
  • Although Armstrong did overhaul González de Galdeano and Beloki to claim his fourth Tour, O.N.C.E. improved their performance over the previous year: Beloki moved up a step on the podium to second and was clearly Armstong's principal threat, González de Galdeano once again finished fifth, and with strong riding from team mate José Azevedo, who finished sixth, O.N.C.E. were able to claim the team competition: See the notes below on this sentence but it needs to be split up as well, it's just too long.
  • palmarès: This doesn't seem to be a commonly used foreign word in English, consider replacing with the English equivalent.
  • , González de Galdeano combines studying at Basque Institute of Physical Education (IVEF) with being a technical secretary at the Euskaltel-Euskadi team, where he had started his professional career in 1995.: Needs rewritten, not correctly structured for subject-verb agreement.
  • See my other comments about this section title.
  • The whole section is a giant list, and I don't even think it is necessary, see below.
  • Structure
  • "Palmares'? Section title is confusing, not sure what that means myself.
  • MOS
  • Overall, no huge problems.
  • Jargon
  • Some explanation of racing related terms may be necessary for the average reader: stage, sprints, time-trials are just a few examples.
  • Criteria #2: Verifiable
  • References
  • The citations in the middle of sentences are hugely distracting to the reader, consider moving them to the end of the applicable sentence.
  • Article relies largely on one source, not horrible but other sources should be looked for.
  • Inline citations
  • Seemed to be used in the pertinent places
  • Reliable
  • Overall, yes, save the POV issues.
  • Original research
  • Meets the qualifications.
  • Criteria #3: Thoroughness
  • Major aspects
  • There isn't a word about his first 22 years of life. only 1995 to present are covered.
  • Focus
  • Despite his excellent time-trialling skills, González de Galdeano eventually missed out on claiming the overall victory of the race when he lost nearly four minutes to the eventual race winner Jan Ullrich on the penultimate stage,: It is not necessary to justify the lost with a "he lost but he is really good at". It's not relevant nor really tied to the loss. His skills at time trialling are separate from any individual time trial, otherwise this sentence gives the impression that it was written by a fan for fans.
  • 'Palmares': This section is not necessary, it's a list anyway, which does meet the "well written" criteria for a GA. Secondly, I would say it is completely unnecessary to have every result of every race he ever participated in.
  • Criteria #4: NPOV
  • Fair representation
  • Yet, González de Galdeano saved his best for the Vuelta a España in September: This is definitely subjective, unless you can use citations to make it true realtive to, say, the season you are talking about.
  • See Comment under Criteria #3 above.
  • Lose POV such as: Nevertheless, González de Galdeano had an excellent Vuelta and riased his profile immeasurably.
POV: (unless it can be backed up as I noted above) Following a lacklustre 2000 season and the demise of the Vitalicio Seguros squad
  • excellent time-trialling skills: adjective such as 'excellent' should be avoided, let the reader decide if his skills are "excellent" based upon the facts and their citations.
  • small rivalry: again, avoid using subjective terminology. Just say rivalry, let the reader decide its size.
  • González de Galdeano beat Armstrong in the time-trial[18] and, following an intense ride by Armstrong in the mountains, eventually finished second in the general classification to him: You shouldn't phrase a sentence in a way that is meant to make the subject look better despite a negative outcome.
  • Word choice: Words like 'Although' and 'however' are sneaky POV words.
  • Although Armstrong did overhaul González de Galdeano and Beloki to claim his fourth Tour, O.N.C.E. improved their performance over the previous year: One has nothing to do with the other.
  • All significant views
  • Reads mostly like it was written by a supporter of Galdeano, once fixed for POV it will probably be alright.
  • Criteria #5: Stable
  • Does not appear to be the subject of ongoing edit wars.
  • Criteria #6: Images
  • Tags/captions
  • The source site on the image page is a broken link that leads to an underconstruction notice. It is impossible to verify the copyright of the image.
  • Lack of
  • The table at the bottom, with the "bronze" notation, doesn't really make sense or add much to the article.
  • Free use
  • Cannot determine.

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