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October 2, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Stay in Love/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sauloviegas (talk • contribs • count) 16:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since Nathan is on vacation, i will make the necessary fixes. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. Novice7 (talk) 06:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feels great to have company. Especially yours.

Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 06:10, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First look through[edit]

Infobox[edit]

Organize format alphabetically: CD single, digital download. Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Missing recording place after year.

I have no idea about this. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will add the locations from liner notes. Novice7 (talk) 06:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Novice7 (talk) 07:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

pop -> Pop Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

'Lyrically, the song finds Carey getting "her cry on with the connect-the-dots break-up track." She described old time she shared with her lover, and that even though "we said let go", and "inside she knows its over", she still "stays in love with him".' Ok, I'm completly lost here. I can't understand what you're trying to say.

I tried to clarify. Have a look please. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

'The song received generally positive reviews from music critics, with many considering it a strong ballad and a highlight from the album. Many reviewers complimented its production and piano-driven melody, while some criticized it for being too similar to Carey's previous song, "We Belong Together".' -> '"I Stay in Love" received generally positive reviews from music critics, with many considering the song a strong ballad and a highlight from the album, while complimenting its production and piano-driven melody, despite criticizing the similarities to Carey's previous single, "We Belong Together" (2005).' (I think it's better this way. If you don't agree, try to re-write the phrases, because I was completly lost the first time I read them.) Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Try to replace 'Carey' with 'the singer' and 'her' when appropriate. You repeated 'Carey' a lot.

I think Carey stands as a better usage. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

Ok, very good work, but I don't see how the beginning of the section relates to the song. This part has nothing to do with it: 'Throughout really 2004, Carey began conceptualizing and working on a new project, eventually titled The Emancipation of Mimi, her tenth studio effort. The album became the best-selling album in the United States of 2005, and the second best-seller around the world, with over 12 million units sold. It earned a myriad of music industry awards, and brought Carey back to the top of pop music following her decline in 2001.'

Thanks on behalf of Nathan. It actually pushed Carey to explore new things. She kind of bombed in the beginning of the 2000s. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Composition[edit]

Wikilink 'crescendo' as 'Dynamics (music)|crescendo'. Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Again, same issue as the lead. Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel the section is too small, merge it with the background. I think it would be better, but I want to know what you think too.

I have to disagree here. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception[edit]

"We Belong Together". -> "We Belong Together" (2005). Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'The Houston Chronicle described the single as a "gently grooving ballad that Janet Jackson should be recording" and wrote "It's the kind of gently grooving ballad that Janet Jackson should be recording instead of wasting her time on tired sex clichés. (It's doubtful, however, that Jackson could reach the notes Carey effortlessly hits at the end of the song.)"' -> 'The Houston Chronicle's writer Joey Guerra described the single as a "gently grooving ballad that Janet Jackson should be recording instead of wasting her time on tired sex clichés", while commenting, "It's doubtful, however, that Jackson could reach the notes Carey effortlessly hits at the end of the song".' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'Richard Cromelin from the Los Angeles Times highlighted Carey's raw form of singing on the track, writing' -> 'Richard Cromelin from the Los Angeles Times highlighted Carey's raw form of singing on the track, writing,' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'with the former rating it three out of five stars and writing' -> 'with the former rating it three out of five stars, and writing,' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'while Nekesa Mumbi Moody from Foster's Daily Democrat wrote' -> 'while Nekesa Mumbi Moody from Foster's Daily Democrat noted' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Try to replace 'the song' with '"I Stay in Love"' or 'it' when appropriate.

I did this in the other section. However in a critical reception section, it is better to use the song's full name wherever possible. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:57, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chart performance[edit]

Try to re-write all this section. Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:55, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video[edit]

Synopsis[edit]

'and as she walks towards the camera,' -> 'and, as she walks towards the camera,' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 06:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'The music then begins, and the scene shifts to black-and-white, and Carey is shown applying her eye make-up and earrings.' 'As the music begins and the scene shifts to black-and-white, Carey is shown applying her eye make-up and earrings.' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 06:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reception[edit]

'Nick Levine from Digital Spy complimented the video, writing "The video manages to be both ridiculous and a little bit moving - quite an achievement."' -> 'Nick Levine from Digital Spy complimented the video, commenting that it managed "to be both ridiculous and a little bit moving - quite an achievement."' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 06:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

'Similarly, Entertainment Weekly's Michael Slezak described Carey's boots as "hot", and called the cinematography "gorgeous". He complimented several aspects of the video, writing "Mariah’s bod looks totally smokin’, even if her entire wardrobe should be donated to a charity benefiting teenage strumpets and/or truck-stop hookers. Also: That Wentworth Miller 2.0 ain’t hard on the eyes, either (in reference to the man who played her love interest in "We Belong Together")."' -> 'Entertainment Weekly writer Michael Slezak described Carey's boots as "hot", and considered the cinematography of the music video "gorgeous". He also complimented several aspects of the video, saying, "Mariah’s bod looks totally smokin’, even if her entire wardrobe should be donated to a charity benefiting teenage strumpets and/or truck-stop hookers. Also: That Wentworth Miller 2.0 ain’t hard on the eyes, either (in reference to the man who played her love interest in "We Belong Together")."' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Luscious Pink commercial[edit]

'When describing the concept, Carey's official website wrote "The new fragrance commercial is a combination of Mariah's two passions - music and fragrance."' -> 'The release published on Carey's official website described the concept of the commercial as "a combination of Mariah's two passions - music and fragrance."' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances[edit]

'In promotion for E=MC² and the single' -> 'Due to promotion for E=MC² and the single' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'becoming the best-selling single of 2008.' -> 'becoming the second best-selling single of 2008 in the United Kingdom.' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'Carey made an appearance at the American Music Awards, held on November 23, 2008 at the Nokia Theatre.' -> 'Carey also made an appearance at the American Music Awards of 2008 on November 23, at the Nokia Theatre.' Done Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Track listings and formats[edit]

Missing digital download.

I do not understand. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing the source for digital download. It is said that it received a digital download, but it's not listed on the section. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 20:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Second look through[edit]

Infobox[edit]

'CD single, Digital download' - > 'CD single, digital download'

Reception[edit]

Critical response[edit]

'Michael Slezak from Entertainment Weekly wrote that the song is "a slower, less addictive variation on "We Belong Together".[17] In separate reviews of the song, both David Balls and Nick Levine of Digital Spy compared the song to Carey's "We Belong Together",'. Michael Slezak also compared the song to We Belong Together, Glenn Gamboa also. Try to re-write this section, since various critics compared it to "We Belong Together".

Comments[edit]

I will continue this review later, Nathan. I have to sleep! :) - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 01:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet dreams. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 05:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Or a beautiful nightmare... Hey, I'll continue the review later today. :) - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 18:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can have a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare, either way do not wake up from it. Lol. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, I love that song... Either way, I continued the review. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 18:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was the first article i promoted here. Even though it does not look great, i just love that article. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:51, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! I think it looks great. I love this song since the demo leaked. By the way, the first article I promoted here was "Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know". - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 20:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yours also looks great. I will give that song a listen. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 08:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Important comments – There is nothing in the background that talks about "I Stay in Love" the song. Its just a bunch load of stuff about previous albums and singles. Remove altogether. A classic case of WP:UNDUE. The article cannot pass GA if such problems are kept. Sauloviegas, keep this in mind in your next GA reviews. Oh, and tracklistings needs time. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed undue stuff. Will add the duration of the tracks soon. Thanks for commenting Legolas. Novice7 (talk) 14:04, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I commented that they had nothing to do with the song, but I didn't know it was a case of WP:UNDUE! :) Thanks for commenting Legolas! Second look through soon... - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 17:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem Saulo, that way you learn also. Mags, I think those small two line sub-sections in Music Video appears to break flow of prose. It would be better to merge them if substantial content is not found. And also, the times of the tracklist are left. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 19:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All done! Take a look. Thanks Lego. Novice7 (talk) 06:41, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Second look through – Take a look. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 13:14, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Passing. - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 05:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help![edit]

Can anyone help me find a reference in the "synopsis"? George miranda do nascimento (talk) 01:34, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't quite understand your question?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:57, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think he is asking for the reference that supports the synopsis. I don't think he knows that we don't need to reference the synopsis. AARON• ^TALK 18:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. Sorry, but I'm not so good in English. I know you do not need references to the synopsis section. I wonder if you know where I can get on websites or in magazines. George miranda do nascimento (talk) 19:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]