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"supported by a wide variety of industry leaders"[edit]

In the section "Usage" it says "the 802.11s draft is supported by a wide variety of industry leaders". Really? I'd like to know which ones. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I would really like to know. Does anybody have more information? 138.190.32.7 (talk) 09:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ESS ?[edit]

What's ESS? --Nick 14:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Status out of date[edit]

update the status. In march 2006 the last 2 drafts have been merged into a final one --84.176.105.31 18:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WiMesh[edit]

Some of this may be useful in the WiMesh section:

The Wi-Mesh Alliance (WiMA) is an open, non-profit multi-industry group working together to introduce the best technical solution for the IEEE 802.11s Mesh Wireless LAN. It was founded in June 2005. Its foudation members are Nortel, Accton, Thomson, Philips, InterDigital, MITRE, NextHop and ComNets (RWTH Aachen University). Its proposal was developed under the guidelines of the IEEE Standards Association and submitted to the IEEE 802.11 Task Group S (TGs). It fully covers the requirements of all application scenario, defined by TGs and builds on three different mode of operations. While the periodic mode is used in conjunction with the 802.11 Contention Free Period, the dynamic mode allows for a scheduling based on Transmission Opportunities, known from IEEE 802.11e. The Shared Coordination Channel mode is used in highly dynamic applications, where ad-hoc capability is a very important issue. Unlike IETF MANET, MIT's Rooftop or other standard 802.11 Mesh networks, IEEE 802.11s aims at packet forwarding/routing integrated into the MAC layer. It greatly enhances the routing efficiency, therefore. Hence, the WiMA approach knows different routing protocols, which are support by constant link quality measurements to improve the reliability and to performance. In July 2005, WiMA presented its proposal during the IEEE 802.11 plenary meeting in San Francisco. It is expected that future merger will invite new partners and bring the standardization process quickly to a first draft amenendment.

Stephen B Streater 09:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just noticed that this article didn't contain any sources, so I'll have to fish some out before merging. Stephen B Streater 09:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's more a commercial for a consortium than an encyclopedia entry...Guenael 17:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Task Group TG[edit]

What is this? What is a TG? Needs clarification i think.

"Task Group" probably needs its own article.Guenael 17:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Term 'STA' is undefined[edit]

Please define the term STA in the sentence:

... to the mesh network to STAs, which have broad market availability ...

Although standards folks hate the word "client" and use "Station" instead, I can see how that would annoy normal human beings! Guenael 11:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

C04DF16B 07:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External link[edit]

Perhaps http://www.open80211s.org/ would be appropriate to add. --Emesee (talk) 06:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was one before, but somebody removed it, claiming "Wikipedia is not Google". Since open80211s is an open source project, I see no reason not to mention it. --Guenael (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added it back in on a whim when moving external links below see also. If the consensus becomes that it is too Googlish, please feel free to remove it again. --Emesee (talk) 22:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wi-Fi Direct[edit]

Is there a relationship between 802.11s and "Wi-Fi Direct"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.62.79 (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, though that was also my thought when I first saw the press release. See http://www.wi-fi.org/files/20091015_Wi-Fi_Direct_FAQ.pdf From what I gather, it is basically ad-hoc mode with a rudimentary discovery process added on. Seems to be a software based alternative for having to add Bluetooth v3 (which touts using bluetooth to discover devices and switch to Wi-Fi to quickly transfer large media files). -- KelleyCook (talk) 15:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wi-Fi Direct specifies a software AP. That's all. Stations connect with that AP as they would to with any other AP. If the Wi-Fi Direct Master has connectivity to any other network ("the Internet") it may share this connectivity via L3 mechanisms. So, routing is needed and different IP address ranges are needed. With 802.11s, however, everything seamlessly works within L2. There is no external function needed and the mesh appears like a single LAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.154.28.181 (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Applications[edit]

Are there any notes on market adoption / actual applications of the technology?

Can this be used in tandem with 802.11a/b/g/n? Will a separate radio be required? What are the frequencies? Does this allow direct access to the internet? 70.89.23.50 (talk) 15:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Add mention of EAP-psk[edit]

The "Simultaneous Authentication of Equals" authentication method in 802.11s is based on Dragonfly, according to an Aruba blog posting by one of the contributors to 802.11s (http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Technology-Blog/Secure-authentication-with-only-a-password/ba-p/36524). That article also mentions another Dragonfly derivative, RFC 5931 "EAP-psk". Please add mention of this RFC in the page and to the references.

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