Talk:IÉ 22000 Class

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Car types[edit]

The recent edit by 84.66.246.166 re no. of 3 & 6-car sets is, I believe, correct. However, my own sources tell me that all car types are powered. A "B1" type being identical to the "B" type except for the addition of sanding. This would mean that only 2 cars of the 3-car set would be powered, which doesn't seem likely. Unless you know differently?? Suckindiesel 23:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is correct that all cars are powered. Earlier info in an enthusiast magazine was wrong on this point

My own info is that there is no "B2" type car, only B & B1 types. Ref to a "B2" type in some docs is a typo Suckindiesel 17:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article is biased Irish Rail propaganda, ignoring delays in the introduction of these trains including the fact that all publicity about them has been removed from stations and different reports of technical problems with them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.152.237 (talk) 19:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That the article is "biased Irish Rail propaganda" is putting it a bit strongly as none of the facts contained within this article are incorrect, as far as I can tell. The only part that is doubtful is the "In service: Late 2007" claim. Time will tell re this one. Suckindiesel 13:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That the service introduction of these trains has been delayed is certainly true. However, that is not the point of the article which merely states a late 2007 service date. I have re-read the article in vain looking for any factual inaccuracies and have therefore removed the disputed article header. Suckindiesel 16:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Manufacturer[edit]

I've removed ref to TCC & substituted Hyundai Rotem as manufacturers. These cars are made in Rotem's plant in Korea, not by TCC, who merely supplied the bogies. Therefore TCC are in the same category as any other sub-supplier. Suckindiesel (talk) 17:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Car weight 63 tonne[edit]

The given car weight of 63 tonne seems unreasonably high and is uncited. If I have it right it was added on 05:08 20 February 2012 UTC by Librotyrannus ... be aware any internet sources post this date may have originated from Wikipedia. Djm-leighpark (talk) 01:26, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hyundai Rotem project Record IE 22000 DMU (original) gives trainset weight 287t for 378 passengers ... implies a six car set. 48t per railcar. It looks like this may be from project stage. Propose this is used unless anything better arises. Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Having also seen other sources not useable in wikipedia I weight 48t-49t is the correct weight, I understand circa 60t is the crush weight (without pushers). Being pedantic a better source is required but I think this is adequate for most purposes.Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think I first included that 63 tonne figure back on 3/07/07. So long ago that I can't remember its source. 48 tonnes agrees with Rotems press release, and is a realistic figure, typical of other similar cars.Suckindiesel (talk) 00:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh ... yes ... you be right .. it may be you who introducing the likely fake 63 tonnes across the internet possibly influencing not to but any more because they are so heavy.The problem is the rightful weights are a tad higher than 48t to my best understanding. I need to apologise to Librotyrannus for getting this incorrect. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Revised transmission trial[edit]

Seems to have been a trial to reduce fuel consumption ... noting for possible late article enhancment, Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Model[edit]

Just about to revert unsourced information about a model ... sourced information is required .... I guess the'll need one for the Fry and I guess that will need to be OO/EM from the rumours .... Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC) I have noted there was model for sale and it appears to have been a handbuilt conversion of a another Bachmann model, possibly a GB Class 170, and possibly a one-off. This is not my specialist area to I am speculating. I do not believe it is worthy of article mention unless a commercial conversion kit is identified ... 23:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Services[edit]

I have seen an ICR at Midleton recently, is it just me? or does Wikipedia not mention it? Ié 2600 Class (talk) 06:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]