Talk:Hywel the Great

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Merge from Saint Hywel[edit]

NAC: Consensus is that these two names are for the same legendary person. Actual merge will require an admin. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Baring-Gould makes it clear that, while the hagiographic tradition varies somewhat from the historical and Arthurian ones, they're talking about the exact same legendary figure: a princely refugee from Brittany, named "Hywel" son of "Emyr Llydaw", participating in the Arthurian romances. — $Llywelyn II$ 13:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Added RFC at top.] —

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01:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's probably no need for separate articles if sources discuss them as the same figure (or even related variants). The article needs a lot of work, though.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think an RfC is necessary, there's not much to discuss here. The Saint Hywel article is in such a state that there's not much to merge anyway. A redirect with sentence siting Baring-Gould as saying the figures are the same should suffice.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the merge. I don't think an RfC is necessary if there's no opposition to the move. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:48, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I support a merge but the article(s) have a lot of work ahead. Fraulein451 (talk) 18:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Other Hoels[edit]

The saint and legendary king are probably this guy, but Baring-Gould suggests that "Riwal" in Domnonia was probably a "King (=rhi) Hoel" around the same time. This may have been the Hoel encountered by Saint Malo, who tended to hang out on the north coast. — $Llywelyn II$ 15:24, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]