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He lived to 100 years of age?! Why was he appointed to all these positions when he was in his 80's and 90's? Apparently he was 60 when his son was born... This seems only just on this side of possible... Clarification anybody? 222.153.76.14

Dates appear to have been fixed? Link through to DNB article on Wikisource added to references. Smd49 (talk) 06:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a little addition to keep confusion to a minimum:[edit]

When Isabella and her lover, Roger Mortimer, led a rebellion against her husband Edward, they captured both Despensers—first the elder, later the younger. Queen Isabella interceded for Hugh the elder, but his enemies, notably Roger Mortimer and Henry, Earl of Lancaster, insisted both father and son should face trial and execution.

When I read this I thought "Boy, must've been love for Isabella to have her husband and son treated like that." and didn't think anything more of it. It wasn't until I read a different page that it dawned on me that QUEEN Isabella was meant at the beginning of the paragraph. I do realize that she is mentioned at the end of this one, and at the end of the section before this, but a too casual reading (like I did) can definitely cause some confusion because both his wife and his queen are named Isabella. A simple addition of "Queen" in front of the first "Isabella" in this paragraph would probably help with that.

79.225.8.141 (talk) 17:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC) Rhonda[reply]