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Brilliant as far as I'm concerned[edit]

I think it's excellent, well planned out, fairly well researched (a real-book bibliography can never be too long), comprehensive (as far as I know). Of course pronunciation files and some kind of related picture always put the real finishing touches on the thing, I'll see can I find some kind of relevant image. But all in all grand, which is a lot coming from me, as I've a vested interest being, as I am, grendelsmother 14:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Elder Scrolls (computer game series) reference[edit]

Rather obscure, but High Hrothgar is the name of an area in The Elder Scrolls series of computer games.

Strangely there's no specific article on The Elder Scrolls wiki. This is the closest I could find: http://www.uesp.net/tamriel/geography/tgeo_h.shtml

The article reads: "High Hrothgar: High Hrothgar is a settlement high atop the highest peak in Skyrim, the Throat of the World. In it dwell the ancient Greybeards who endeavor to become more attuned to the voice of the sky."15:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

"Anglo-Saxon" vs. "Old English"[edit]

I personally am in favor of retaining "Anglo-Saxon" throughout, as it is more accurate. If more people want to use "Old English" (which is kind of a vague term), and have reasons they're willing to discuss here, I'm fine with that. However, we cannot just globally replace "Anglo-Saxon" with "Old English" in the article, as in some cases "Anglo-Saxon" or "Saxon" refers to a tribe of people, not to the language they speak. The events in the early part of Beowulf, where Hrothgar appears, take place around AD 515. The people living in what we now call England at that time were Angles and Saxons, and, in cases of intermarriage, Anglo-Saxons. They were not "English". Fumblebruschi (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"In film"[edit]

The section currently states the following: He also appears in the 2007 animated version of the saga, and is voiced by Anthony Hopkins. The role of his character in the film, where he is portrayed as hedonistic, somewhat slovenly, and otherwise flawed, is far different from that in the poem, where he is a well-respected and honorable king. I'm inclined to disagree. Hrothgar is only portrayed as slovenly and hedonistic when he is celebrating in Herot. Otherwise, he's clearly shown to be a well-respected and honorable king. Did we watch the same movie? intooblv (talk) 21:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

I'm a bit confused as to why this article is titled Hroðgar instead of Hrothgar, which is much more common in English. I suppose it has something to do with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Norse mythology), which discusses how and when to use Norse orthography. However, the guideline also says "When one particular Anglicized form for a name is overwhelmingly most common and well known to the average English speaking person, it is used for the article title...", in keeping with WP:ENGLISH. In this case, "Hrothgar" is overwhelmingly the most common way modern English speakers will encounter the character. It is used in most (if not all) of the common modern translations, including Ruth P. Lehmann's,[1] Burton Raffel's,[2] R. M. Liuzza's,[3], Michael Alexander's, and of course Seamus Heaney's immensely popular version.[4] "Hrothgar" returns over 93,000 hits on Google Books, compared to only 11,500 for "Hroðgar" (and many of those use Hroðgar in the Old English and then "Hrothgar" in the notes or translations.) If there are no objections I will move the page to the more common modernized name.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:04, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I've moved the discussion of the various forms of the name to a separate section per MOS:LEADALT.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Iona island, aka HY, wiki page "Iona"[edit]

Iona, the island also known as HY in Scottish Hebrides. Wæs is Varni living in East Saxony latter called Bullungs, So we have the Eatains on Oland Island Sweden, the Wæn in Saxony and Eadgils is Irish name, they are all coming from he diverse groups in Ireland/Scottish isles.Wætheow, Angeltheow, and Hermanthruda, and the clans of Moldngs and Myrfings are From Ireland...even Freawine and daughter,.and Froda.. Myrfings would then be Cwen by marriage.. and on top of all this, we have the "King Leyre" tragedy playing out in three places in same timeframe.Briton, Saxony, and with these these Heathings, which oddly are seemingly conducting their given name systematically the same as one of the styles of Ireland. 172.78.226.182 (talk) 15:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]