Talk:House of Sforza

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The Coat of Arms is wrong[edit]

This was not the coat of arms of the house of Sforza but of the branch that came to control Milan which is not all of them. (edit: there actually is a more correct version, which I just addedm but it's not fully complete, it misses the crown on top) The coat of arms should be more like this: http://www.wappenwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Attendoli_Sforza.svg . But, It would also need a sforza crown. The current village of Cotignola actually "Stole" their current coat of arms from the Sforza Dynasty, so if someone can make a high resolution svg file of it that would be very handy: Here is a link to the Coat of Arms of Cotignola: https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=File:Cotignola.jpg I know this for a fact as it is mentioned in A History of Milan under the Sforza^[1], here is a short quote:

On the arrival of Rupert III., King of the Romans, in Italy, with the intention of humbling his Milanese vassal, Sforza headed the Florentine contingent that was sent to his aid. Rupert III. soon swelled the ranks of Sforza's admirers, and before they parted he granted him the right of bearing his own arms, namely, a lion rampant. The citizens of Cotignola had already given Sforza the quince (cotigna), which formed the device of his native town. Now, at the King's suggestion, the lion grasped the quince in his left paw, while with his right he challenged all those who should venture to wrest the trophy from his grasp. The device was crowned by the Sforza helmet, consisting of a winged dragon with a man's head. In 1409 a diamond ring was added by the Marquis of Este to commemorate Sforza's triumph over Ottobuono Terzo, the tyrant of Parma.

BelgiumFury (talk) 16:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Milan under the Sforza by Cecilia M. Ady & Edward Armstrong

The Red Baby[edit]

Could someone explain the symbols on the coat-of-arms, in particular the red baby? Risssa (talk) 01:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joanna of Austria[edit]

There are two women known as "Joanna of Austria." Someone should set up the link to lead to the right one (this is in the family tree). Risssa (talk) 23:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sforza family tree[edit]

This section was dominated by a lengthy branch detailing the descent to Diana, Princess of Wales and her sons, which unbalanced the focus. I believe Charles II of England would be a better node to stop at. The king has many other notable descendants (and I do mean many), which is aptly explored in the Descendants of Charles II of England article. Further, Charles II is quite more notable than any of his descendants, and is the start of that line's removal from its continental origin and its taking new root in Britain.

The cut portion (with scaled-down bullets) spanning 11 generations, which would be more suitable to an 'Ancestry of Diana, Princess of Wales' discussion (and is already covered in Ancestry charts of the current British Royal Family), is copied below.

son Charles II of England mistress Louise de Kérouaille, Duchess of Portsmouth

son Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond married Anne Brudenell
- son Charles Lennox, 2nd Duke of Richmond married Sarah Lennox, Duchess of Richmond and Lennox
  - son General Lord George Lennox married Lady Louisa Kerr
    - son Charles Lennox, 4th Duke of Richmond married Lady Charlotte Gordon
      - son Charles Gordon-Lennox, 5th Duke of Richmond married Lady Caroline Paget
        daughter Lady Cecilia Catherine Gordon-Lennox married Charles Bingham, 4th Earl of Lucan
        daughter Rosalind Cecilia Caroline Bingham (1869–1958) married James Hamilton, 3rd Duke of Abercorn
        daughter Cynthia Spencer, Countess Spencer married Albert Spencer, 7th Earl Spencer
        son John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer married Frances Shand Kydd
        daughter Diana, Princess of Wales married Charles, Prince of Wales
        son Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
        
        son Prince Harry of Wales

--Mercury McKinnon (talk) 17:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing sentence[edit]

The first paragraph is confusing. I don’t know how it should be rewritten though, as I don’t know what it’s supposed to say. The comma followed by “Sforza rule ending” is awkward. Alexandermoir (talk) 01:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rewritten for clarity. Let me know if it requires more work. RightQuark (talk) 02:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Milan under the Sforza by Cecilia M. Ady & Edward Armstrong

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