Talk:Horses of Saint Mark

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Restoration in Berlin (Germany)?[edit]

The horses traveled across the Alps to Berlin in the 1980s (or was it late 1970s?) to be restored. During their stay in Berlin, they where presented to the public in Die Pferde von San Marco (Exhibition) . Possibly the fibreglass copies were also created then...?

They went to London also, but I'm not sure the restoration happened in either place. Johnbod (talk) 20:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Trivia[reply]

On the Brandenburger Tor (Brandenburg Gate) in Berlin is a Roman-style chariot with the sculptures of four horses pulling it ("die Quadriga vom Brandenburger Tor"). Just as Napoleon had approriated the horses of San Marco, he also relocated the Quadriga to Paris(?), from where they were returned in 18?? after the Napoleonic Wars had ended, and just as the horses of San Marco have become symbols charged with patriotic meaning, the Quadriga of Berlin had through Napoleon become a symbol of Prussian nationalism in the 19th century. (It may be asumed that the fact that the people of Berlin were as crazy about their horses as the good citizens of Venice recommended the then still divided Mauerstadt ("Walled City") as location for the restoration.)

This might be added to the original article if somebody could verify it and deemed it of sufficient interest. I think it'd be quite alright to add, as it shows more of how those horses got around (Rome, Byzantium, Venice, Paris, Venice, Berlin, Venice,...) and shared history and meaning with other sculptures, etc., over their 2+ millenia of existence.

DJ Vollkasko, February 2006

Wrong quadriga.

Museum[edit]

It says they are now in a museum. Which?--SidiLemine 09:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are now in the San Marco itself -standing only a few meters away from the horses outside- of which the upper floor has been made a 'museum'. --131.111.219.247 (talk) 10:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Was there another figure associated with the quadriga?[edit]

Was there ever another figure being pulled by the horses? Arthurian Legend (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The so called Horses of Saint Mark originally had a chariot with them when they were displayed at the Hippodrome of Constantinople until the Fourth Crusade - whether or not there was a figure on the chariot is something I don't know. It would be interesting to find out what happened to the chariot, though. --Kurt Leyman (talk) 14:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Horses?[edit]

According to the article, the horses are referred as "Roman" (Roman art refers to the visual arts made in Ancient Rome). There is absolutely no fact to support that claim, just speculation about who might have ordered the construction of the horses, but this certainly does not qualify as a fact that the horses are Roman. In the best case, the history of the horses is unknown. So, in my opinion, the word "Roman" is misleading on the entry sentence of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.48.71.237 (talk) 13:54, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lysippos[edit]

I've removed the unreferenced attribution to Lysippos. It can be restored when a reference is provided, but since (a) there is a tendency among some art historians to try to associate surviving works of ancient art with the names of famous sculptors, and (b) it is highly unlikely that most surviving works of ancient art were actually made by the few artists whose names we know from literary sources, this statement shouldn't be left in the body of the article to mislead readers. When and if it is reintroduced, it should be made clear that the attribution is merely speculation without any evidence to support it. Choliamb (talk) 14:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]