Talk:Horror punk

Blitzkid

These guys were major players, and my inclusion of them in the list of notables is deleted, even as more marginal acts remain. Evidently this is because they lack their own page. It's f'n ridiculous. Edit: Finally! Had to write the article myself, which I never did before. Long live the horror, long live horror punk.Keithramone33 (talk) 03:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)Keithramone33

Too many different genres competing

It seems to me that you have horror metal and horror rock merged with horror punk. Then you have a group of people who are horror punk bands acting like fascists in deleting horror rock and horror metal bands from lists. Either Horror Rock needs its own category again or horror punk fans need to stop deleting stuff they don't like. I am at a complete loss as to how you can possibly consider this article serious as an all-encompassing article on horror rock when it is predominantly horror punk and fails to mention bands such as Cradle of Filth or Rob/White Zombie - the article is p*ss poor and nazi punks need to f**k off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.8.217 (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Alkaline Trio

Could the band Alkaline Trio be considered Horror Punk? 70.232.39.24 06:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

No possible way --Blodnatt13 (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Alkaline Trio are:

The band known as the Alkaline Trio are considerably a horror punk band, but they also seem to be more associated with the "Death Pop" label, much like Love Equals Death, The Knives In The Attic. DEATH POP is basically Dark Punk-Pop... Imagine if Blink 182 decided that they were as Undead as 45 Grave, yeah, think Blink 182 playing 45 Grave!!! 198.189.164.206 21:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)Christopher Cole

Boo-wop

Aside from Mister Monster, no other bands seem to consider themselves to be "Boo-wop". The article currently claims that Blitzkid is a Boo-wop band, but Blitzkid rarely incorporates Doo-wop into their music, at least, not more so than every other Horror punk band. Several other bands like to coin unique terms to describe their music (ie: spook rock, ghoul punk, splatter punk...) but I don't think these should be listed as official sub-genres. So I'm removing it until someone can present a case for Boo-wop being an established sub-genre of horror punk.Skullord 08:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

13th Floor Elevators?

The 13th Floor Elevators were horror punk? I reeeeeally don't think so. SchnappM 06:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Zombiecore

If the article for Zombiecore still exists, I think it should be fused into this article as a sub-article, as it refers to the horror themed Thrashcore bands like Send More Paramedics and Zombie Apocalypse, and its a pet name for a similar genre too small to be its own thing. Basically its Horror Hardcore, and fast.

It is its own genre. By ur theory horror punk should be fused with punk. Zombiecore needs to be expanded though--Slogankid 07:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Where'd it go?

Where did the horror punk sub-genres (horror Glam and Horror Hardcore), and list of bands go? This is inappropriate and destructive to the documentation of this musical style. There are bands that are intensified versions of Horror punk and there are those that are in the glamor style of this that use Glam Metal with Horror punk... Help make this article be like it was, a well made article that had the appropriate stylings. it was nice.198.189.164.206 16:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)CRC

Horror Hardcore is known as Zombiecore. These genres were probably deleted by the same vandals who deleted zombiecore--Slogankid 07:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Horror hardcore and zombiecore are not the same, both term comes from different backgrounds and both are represented by different bands. Their only connection is that on both genres the bands that played it for the firs time and used term had (or were) crossover thrash. --190.72.148.168 (talk) 02:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

04-12-07

Only one dead link was added, the horrorcore punk link, which I've removed. As for my "opinion"...

Some bands incorporate influences from heavy metal and gothic rock, and prefer the label horror rock, such as the Murderdolls.

As you can see, my "opinion" does not go "against what the article says in the first section." The article clearly states some bands are influenced by these genres and prefer the horror rock label. 69.241.216.151 03:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• There were actually two dead links; one was for a band that doesn't have its own article. I deleted the sentence about horror rock, because if those bands aren't horror punk, they don't belong in this article. I also did some other copy editing, to link words, improve wording and improve formatting. For example, there is no need to write the phrase "genre of music" when there is a perfectly good term and article title called music genre. There is also no need to duplicate a list of notable bands here, since that's what List of horror punk bands is for. I'm also not sure why you deleted links from the See also section, since all of those articles are at least somewhat related to the topic. I restored those links.Spylab 11:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

The band link, "Calabrese (band)", should have been "Calabrese." Calabrese has other meanings, and because of this, I assumed the group's page was "Calabrese (band)."

Response to: "I deleted the sentence about horror rock, because if those bands aren't horror punk, they don't belong in this article. I also did some other copy editing, to link words, improve wording and improve formatting. For example, there is no need to write the phrase "genre of music" when there is a perfectly good term and article title called music genre. "

I see nothing wrong with your edits.

Response to: "There is also no need to duplicate a list of notable bands here, since that's what List of horror punk bands is for."

The list was of key horror punk bands, not notable bands. I don't mind it being removed, though.

Response to: "I'm also not sure why you deleted links from the See also section, since all of those articles are at least somewhat related to the topic. I restored those links."

The removed links can be found in the intro and "Horror punk fashion." 199.4.147.2 15:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Stylistic origins

I've removed death rock, heavy metal, and goth rock because, as the article said, "Some bands incorporate influences from heavy metal and gothic rock, and prefer the label horror rock." The Misfits were not influenced by heavy metal or death rock, and the only album with a goth rock or post-punk influence is the Cough/Cool EP; released before they became a punk rock band. 68.47.81.164 07:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

goth rock, deathrock and post-punk came out later than horror punk.So they cannot be seen as its stylistic origins.Please stop adding them. Xr 1 (talk) 21:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

What about psychobilly? I ehar lots of psychobilly influence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.217.47 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Psychobilly also cames before horror punk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.108.149.206 (talk) 06:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• According to their Wikipedia articles, The Misfits (band) — the first horror punk band — started in 1977, and The Meteors — the first psychobilly band — started in 1980. Therefore, horror punk came before psychobilly. Perhaps you mean rockabilly was an influence on horror punk. Spylab (talk) 14:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• But the meteor's were NOT the first Psychobilly band! What about the cramps? They were merely the first band to use the term psychobilly. The actual style has been around for ages.

Besides, the Misfit's first album is labeled as Psychobilly here (or at least last time I checked) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.31.73 (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

• Follow-up - Johnny Cash, in 1976, before punk even existed, used the term Psychobilly AND played it 9since it was clearly a faster, more intense Rockabilly) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.31.73 (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Misfits influences

The Misfits 'Earth A.D.' Album was influenced by Motörhead, and therefore the horror rock label from the gothic rock and heavy metal influences is valid.

Picture

Eventhough it's nice to see a picture on this page, shouldn't it be a picture of a band thats actually pláying horrorpunk? If it would just be about the looks we could even post pictures of icp or gwar, but it's not. Anyway, I don't know much about adding pics so could somebody do this? Cyanid 07:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Post punk / Horror Punk

i think there's an obvious tie between horror punk and post punk, (argued by the fact that both "movements" approached the dark aspect and that both spanned from punk during the same period), but i'm not sure which influenced the other. i'm inclining to think that post punk is more of an umbrella term which includes horror punk. is anyone here better documented than i that can illuminate me on the subject? IleanaCosanziana 13:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I think post-punk is more of a genre that was influenced by deathrock instead (thus therefor share the same dark aspects). Its indeed an umbrella term, but doesnt really include most styles that were directly influenced by early punk (such as hardcore and anarcho). Cyanid 22:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

nope. it can't be. post-punk can't be influenced by deathrock, as the first one refers to anything that came after punk, was dark, introspective, etc, and as the later one refers only to whatever was sung in the late 70's and early 80's in the West Coast of the United States, was dark and had punk origins, etc. i stand by my statement: post punk is an umbrella term and should include horror punk as a sub category. now all i have to do is find people who were weird enough to dedicate time into writing something that can be used as wikireference. (and, yes, you are right about post punk not including everything that spanned from punk, but horror punk is not just "anything that spanned from punk". it has another common trait with post punk: the introspective, dark quality) IleanaCosanziana 20:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

If we were to include every post-70s band with an introspective dark quality, we'd be making one helluva list:P Anyways, the 'post' in postpunk means after-punk and the misfits were already active in the first wave of punk (while the term of post-punk originated around 1980) so i wouldn't say that horror punk is a form of post-punk. I know that post-punk and deathrock are a bit different, but they both share a common thing that horrorpunk does nót which is the often used synthesizer and drum machine, while horrorpunk concentrates more on a hardcore-style of playing and is generally louder and faster than any of the bands that would be in the post-punk style.Cyanid 19:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Horror hardcore

I'd like to add a section on "horror hardcore" (Dwid Hellion's term), which applies horror punk to thrash and later metalcore, and includes Septic Death and Integrity.

Does anyone have any objections or feelings on this? 67.191.153.112 (talk) 01:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The Cramps

Zipoleighter (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Why in the world are the Crtamps not even mentioned in this article, at least as progenitors? Their article clearly states they are a punk band (I know this can be disputed) and they use horror films as one of their main subjects? And what could be more horrific than the spectre of Brian Gregory? Someone who really knows, please comment?

I agree that the Cramps can be seen as related to Horror Punk, but as far as I know bands like the Cramps and the Damned have mostly been an influence to the genre, but they never belonged to it. Cyanid (talk) 10:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Lux from the Cramps did say in interviews that he hates "the horror punk shit" it's the worst stuff with the worst lyrics he did ever heard.. and so on.. . The Cramps (Lux and Ivy also did not like what became psychobilly.. check interviews! they see themselves as a Rock'n'Roll band influenced by the Blues!

He didn't say 'horror punk' shit, he said 'psychobilly shit'.

Changes I have made

I have changed Misfits to The Misfits, put AFI albums in italics, delinked Ripper and created references section. I also corrected majuscules, punctuation and typos. See diff here. Nite-Sirk (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Proto-goth?

The section comparing goth and horror punk is really confusing. The section needs to be more fleshed out to explain random terms dropped in like “proto-goth” in reference to the misfits. It says the two genres are different but fails to necessarily explain why. 2603:6010:11F0:3C0:20F0:C0F6:B5FD:F02B (talk) 00:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)